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how to stop a dry nurser

Postby wildsawmill » Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:33 pm

so one of my bottle calves thats 7 months old & been weaned off for 5 1/2 months now all of a sudden is trying to nurse the unbred heffer. i tryed putting then in seprate paddoks but the 1050LB heffer wanked across my cattle guard twice now to get to the calf. im affraid shell break a leg , she's tore up one fence to get to the calf. & its been weaned off the bottle for over 5 months
what to do ?
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Re: how to stop a dry nurser

Postby Red Bull Breeder » Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:08 pm

Cash her in.
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Re: how to stop a dry nurser

Postby backhoeboogie » Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:23 pm

wildsawmill wrote:what to do ?


What bull breeder said. Both of 'em. Prices are good.
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Re: how to stop a dry nurser

Postby piedmontese » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:13 pm

u dont have to sale either one.buy a plastic nose ring with the spikes on it.they are only about 3 or 4 bucks and work great.simple to put n the calves nose too.
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Re: how to stop a dry nurser

Postby backhoeboogie » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:55 pm

piedmontese wrote:u dont have to sale either one.buy a plastic nose ring with the spikes on it.they are only about 3 or 4 bucks and work great.simple to put n the calves nose too.


No way in hades would I do that with a calf trying to nurse a heifer. If that heifer has a calf one day, she's going to remember those spikes from when the last calf was trying to nurse.
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Re: how to stop a dry nurser

Postby msscamp » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:21 am

backhoeboogie wrote:
piedmontese wrote:u dont have to sale either one.buy a plastic nose ring with the spikes on it.they are only about 3 or 4 bucks and work great.simple to put n the calves nose too.


No way in hades would I do that with a calf trying to nurse a heifer. If that heifer has a calf one day, she's going to remember those spikes from when the last calf was trying to nurse.


You know, I've been reading all of the posts on here about the nose things with spikes and wondered about the effect of future calves trying to nurse after that experience. Thanks for bringing it up, might prove to be an interesting discussion.
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Re: how to stop a dry nurser

Postby Suzie Q » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:02 am

I would put an electric fence across the cattle grid, and I presume that word you wrote was supposed to be walked!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: how to stop a dry nurser

Postby dun » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:04 am

If the calf has been weaned this long and gone backto sucking you might as well ship her. It's going to persist even wwhen you THINK you have it resolved
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Re: how to stop a dry nurser

Postby backhoeboogie » Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:43 am

msscamp wrote:
backhoeboogie wrote:
piedmontese wrote:u dont have to sale either one.buy a plastic nose ring with the spikes on it.they are only about 3 or 4 bucks and work great.simple to put n the calves nose too.


No way in hades would I do that with a calf trying to nurse a heifer. If that heifer has a calf one day, she's going to remember those spikes from when the last calf was trying to nurse.


You know, I've been reading all of the posts on here about the nose things with spikes and wondered about the effect of future calves trying to nurse after that experience. Thanks for bringing it up, might prove to be an interesting discussion.


No Problem. Its good you are back posting in the forum.

There's something like 42 calves in the herd at the moment that are 4 months and less. They get hard to count the way they move around. I can promise you a few will try to nurse any cow that will let them. They do that. If another cow let them nurse, they'd be robbing another one of my calves. That is the problem I have with the older heifer in the first place and that's why I would ship her. I've been there. Its probably wrong of me but I blame this one more than the bottle calf. That calf has probably tried to nurse any and everything. Only one gave in. If you were willing to hold that heifer solo in a pasture, she'd work for you. I personally don't have the time to individually accomodate each and every one. That's why I'd ship her and the bottle calf too. I am already going to cull some nice heifers. She'd make the list of culls on the next ride.
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Re: how to stop a dry nurser

Postby piedmontese » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:01 pm

backhoeboogie wrote:
piedmontese wrote:u dont have to sale either one.buy a plastic nose ring with the spikes on it.they are only about 3 or 4 bucks and work great.simple to put n the calves nose too.


No way in hades would I do that with a calf trying to nurse a heifer. If that heifer has a calf one day, she's going to remember those spikes from when the last calf was trying to nurse.

we never faced that problem with the cow when she had her next calf.if that was the way it worked u would only need to put the spiked ring n the calfs nose for 1 day and the cow would kick it off every time.sometimes i really blame the cow for letting any1 suck her.got rid of a few shorthorns like that.
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Re: how to stop a dry nurser

Postby msscamp » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:42 pm

No Problem. Its good you are back posting in the forum.

There's something like 42 calves in the herd at the moment that are 4 months and less. They get hard to count the way they move around. I can promise you a few will try to nurse any cow that will let them. They do that. If another cow let them nurse, they'd be robbing another one of my calves. That is the problem I have with the older heifer in the first place and that's why I would ship her. I've been there. Its probably wrong of me but I blame this one more than the bottle calf. That calf has probably tried to nurse any and everything. Only one gave in. If you were willing to hold that heifer solo in a pasture, she'd work for you. I personally don't have the time to individually accomodate each and every one. That's why I'd ship her and the bottle calf too. I am already going to cull some nice heifers. She'd make the list of culls on the next ride.[/quote]

I agree completely! We had one heifer that was separated from her mother until she was ready to calve as a 2 year old, and she was caught sucking her mother. Both of them were shipped on the next trailer. This heifer would be shipped here, too.
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Re: how to stop a dry nurser

Postby TobyBenoit » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:27 am

Sell the calf! Prices are too good right now to deal with problem calves.
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Re: how to stop a dry nurser

Postby wildsawmill » Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:10 pm

well i shipped the heffer still got the bottle calf (red angus bred heffer ) put a metal ring with spikes in her nose she is now about 22 mo old 900 lbs? & should be bred, i hope. was with a bull for 3 weeks , riding was observed.
this problem bottle calf now my biggest animal has started trying to nurse a heffer thats about 200 lbs smaller than her & the charlay is letting her nose ring & all so i put up an ele fence to segrate them but this probly wont work long term .
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Re: how to stop a dry nurser

Postby wildsawmill » Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:13 pm

No Problem. Its good you are back posting in the forum.

i havent had much to say but read a lot here thanks
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Re: how to stop a dry nurser

Postby IluvABbeef » Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:33 pm

wildsawmill wrote:well i shipped the heffer still got the bottle calf (red angus bred heffer ) put a metal ring with spikes in her nose she is now about 22 mo old 900 lbs? & should be bred, i hope. was with a bull for 3 weeks , riding was observed.
this problem bottle calf now my biggest animal has started trying to nurse a heffer thats about 200 lbs smaller than her & the charlay is letting her nose ring & all so i put up an ele fence to segrate them but this probly wont work long term .
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