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Re: curtiss breeding

Post by Son of Butch » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:51 am

I attend the Curtiss (Candy) sire dispersal sale in Illinois I think it was in 1982... could have been in '81.
They had a top flight holstein line up in the 60s - 70s Astronaut was one of the superstars in the 70's but their bull
Pawnee Farm Arlinda Chief was the one that really left his impact on the breed... he was really something special.
I remember Select Sires purchasing Char-Mar Elevation Pabst a great grandson of the old Chief bull.
(Elevation x Milu Betty Ivanhoe Chief) I liked that Pabst bull a lot.
The Arlinda Chief x Ivanhoe cross was known as the ton of milk cross back in the day as the daughters of that cross averaged over 2,000 lbs more milk per year than their herdmates in the late '60s which at the time was really big time special..
A ridiculous % of all holsteins today trace back to either Elevation (RORAE) or Chief and most to both of them.
Elevation was a grandson of Ivanhoe making Pabst a line-bred Ivanhoe.



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Re: curtiss breeding

Post by pdfangus » Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:30 am

I learned how to breed from Scotty Woodrow at a Curtis School in 1974.
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Re: curtiss breeding

Post by Lucky_P » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:11 am

Butch,
Heard a fellow talking on feeding Holstein steers once... made reference to their shallow gene pool - 'they're all their own grandpa'...

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Re: curtiss breeding

Post by boondocks » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:19 am

Lucky_P wrote:Butch,
Heard a fellow talking on feeding Holstein steers once... made reference to their shallow gene pool - 'they're all their own grandpa'...


an oldie but a goody https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlJH81dSiw

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Re: curtiss breeding

Post by Son of Butch » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:12 pm

boondocks wrote:
Lucky_P wrote:Butch,
Heard a fellow talking on feeding Holstein steers once... made reference to their shallow gene pool - 'they're all their own grandpa'...


an oldie but a goody https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlJH81dSiw

I had never heard that before... very funny song.

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Re: curtiss breeding

Post by boondocks » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:43 pm

Son of Butch wrote:
boondocks wrote:
Lucky_P wrote:Butch,
Heard a fellow talking on feeding Holstein steers once... made reference to their shallow gene pool - 'they're all their own grandpa'...


an oldie but a goody https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlJH81dSiw

I had never heard that before... very funny song.


we used to play it for our son when he was a toddler. He would crack up, thought it was the funniest idea ever...

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Re: curtiss breeding

Post by saarizero13 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:23 am

I have some older Curtiss Breeding Service Cryo equipment I have also been wondering about. I have large Linde/Union Carbide LR-311 and Linde/Union Carbide LNR-258 Storage units. They are all in working order and everything is in tact. Is there any value to these items anymore? It is neat to see the old Curtiss logo on the side and figured someone on here would have more information than is out there on these items. They were purchased from an old farm breeder. They are neat pieces of equipment either way just looking for additional info and where to look.

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Re: curtiss breeding

Post by FAvilla » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:14 am

I also worked with Greg for curtiss breeding service in 1977. It was a great experience for me. I was 20 years old and was sales representative for California. I traveled back to Cary and elburn to see the facilities. Met some great people like Don Solberg, Scotty Woodrow, and Ray bak just to name a few. It's a shame what happened to such a great company. I was an ai technician for 40 years and have enjoyed working with dairymen.

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Re: curtiss breeding

Post by R V » Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:30 pm

Does anyone know if there is still any of the old Emulous semen around from Curtiss or some of the other 60's-70's Emulous bulls? It is hard to find anyone that still has these.
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Re: curtiss breeding

Post by jon_solberg » Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:08 pm

I did a google search trying to find information on Miles "Mack" McCarey from Curtiss and found this thread. My dad Don Solberg was with Curtiss many years and I grew up with all of his former colleagues as "uncles". It was fun reading through this post!

We still have a lot of cherished memorabilia from the old days going back to the Cary, IL. location. I found this thread and this site so may be dredging this post up from many, many years ago and thought I would share a picture of a limited print done of Paclamar Astronaut but I'm having a hard time sharing it with this page ... if you can tell me how, i'd be glad to.

I still remember when both he and Pawnee Farms Arlinda Chief were in the same barn in Elburn/Virgil. They were both in Cary before the new barns were built. The herdsman Floren Klopatek was an influential person in my life and we still miss him.

I hope those with memories of Curtiss will enjoy this picture ...
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Re: curtiss breeding

Post by Nesikep » Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:43 pm

jon_solberg wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:08 pm
I did a google search trying to find information on Miles "Mack" McCarey from Curtiss. My dad Don Solberg was with Curtiss many years and I grew up with all of his former colleagues as "uncles". It was fun reading through this post!

We still have a lot of cherished memorabilia from the old days going back to the Cary, IL. location. I found this thread and this site so may be dredging this post up from many, many years ago and thought I would share a picture of a limited print done of Paclamar Astronaut but I'm having a hard time sharing it with this page ... if you can tell me how, i'd be glad to.

I still remember when both he and Pawnee Farms Arlinda Chief were in the same barn in Elburn/Virgil. They were both in Cary before the new barns were built. The herdsman Floren Klopatek was an influential person in my life and we still miss him.

I hope those with memories of Curtiss will enjoy this picture ...
upload it to www.postimg.org and post the link to it here, use the "Hotlink for forums" link
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Re: curtiss breeding

Post by 3SonsFarmacy » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:15 pm

I just found an old Curtiss breeding chart with handwritten notes and dates in early 1959 -1960 in my old barn. Says the service was in Canandaigua NY. This was a dairy, then later a beef farm around that time.

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Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:57 am

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Re: curtiss breeding

Post by Faraway » Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:58 pm

I bought some Charolais semen from a bull that was owned by Curtiss. I paid like 0.20 an ampule. I know next to nothing about the bull. Some of you people up there with a history with Curtiss-- maybe you could glance into your old catalogs to see if there is anything on this bull? Anything would be more than I have--

The bull's name is BLANK CHECK. His American Charolais registration number is M30294. He was calved 4/3/1967. His sire was also named Blank Check, M6820. His dam was MISS ARIZONA 534, RF42046. The younger Blank Check was bred by KYLE K BRUCE, HOPKINSVILLE, KY. He was owned by Curtiss Breeding and SMITH D BROADBENT JR&SONS, CADIZ, KY.

Anything in the bull ads and catalogs from maybe 1970 plus or minus a few years? Looks like his few AI calves that were registered were calved from about 75 to 82.

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