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Culling

Post by Bfields30 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:41 pm

I know now its not the best time to do this but made up my mind to cull 5 momma cows sometime between now and the next few weeks bought all of them this summer All of them raised me good calfs that paid for there moms. They were cheap cows that were bred which weaned good calfs but didn’t hold condition as I thought they should and two have 5.5 month old calfs still on them. I think if I’m lucky I maybe can get 1200-2000 on all 5 at the barn 3 we’re get checked open and two never checked which there going because there both wild.

Just trying to decide on with the money I get for them should I buy some young heifers or what is the Best Buy as of now in the market . I have seen some markets and on Facebook say the seen some thin to decent open cows go for .11-.30 cents which that’s not good at all.



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Re: Culling

Post by midTN_Brangusman » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:06 pm

You can buy a young light bred cow for just a little over kill price right now. I wouldnt hesitate to ship them.

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Re: Culling

Post by Bfields30 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:25 pm

midTN_Brangusman wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:06 pm
You can buy a young light bred cow for just a little over kill price right now. I wouldnt hesitate to ship them.
Yeah that’s my plan and mind made up shipping just don’t know what imma buy but I’ve heard it’s buyers market right now though.

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Re: Culling

Post by 1982vett » Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:14 pm

Market seem steady to slightly higher than a month ago for older bred cows. A few good younger cows have come through @ $750 - $900 depending on breed. I would think it would be ok to look at long term deals on cows, but I thought that two years ago also....
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Re: Culling

Post by Lucky » Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:16 am

I sold 15 cull cows for around $5,200 a few weeks ago so, I’d say you’re numbers are close. The deal on bred cows is surprisingly they are still bringing what they are worth for this time of year. Really nice solid 4-5 yo heavy breds are $1,250-1,450 and lesser cows can be had for a bargain until you figure in feeding them through the winter. I sent several 4 yo open cows that would make someone good cows if they had a year around calving operation. They brought 30-40 cents.

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Re: Culling

Post by MRRherefords » Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:25 am

If you could get them bred before moving you would probably get more money. We shipped two opens this fall and they brought .37 cents. In our area if they are bred (usually it doesn't even matter to what) they have a good chance of bringing what they are worth and sometimes more.

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Re: Culling

Post by Bfields30 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:28 am

Lucky wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:16 am
I sold 15 cull cows for around $5,200 a few weeks ago so, I’d say you’re numbers are close. The deal on bred cows is surprisingly they are still bringing what they are worth for this time of year. Really nice solid 4-5 yo heavy breds are $1,250-1,450 and lesser cows can be had for a bargain until you figure in feeding them through the winter. I sent several 4 yo open cows that would make someone good cows if they had a year around calving operation. They brought 30-40 cents.
really don’t mind feeding have more then enough hay just don’t want to be feeding open cows rather them be bred they have had more then enough time to be bred back

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Re: Culling

Post by Bfields30 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:30 am

MRRherefords wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:25 am
If you could get them bred before moving you would probably get more money. We shipped two opens this fall and they brought .37 cents. In our area if they are bred (usually it doesn't even matter to what) they have a good chance of bringing what they are worth and sometimes more.
Yeah most of these cows calved between March June and took them last two weeks to get checked and they were open. Doesn’t make me happy but they all calved raised good calves but i know I need to move in a different direction kinda older cows they were good price for me getting into cows but now I’m trying to get younger cows

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Re: Culling

Post by gcreekrch » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:35 am

Keeping an open cow that doesn't fit your operation costs money every day you hold her unless your market is on an upswing.
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Re: Culling

Post by Bfields30 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:07 am

gcreekrch wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:35 am
Keeping an open cow that doesn't fit your operation costs money every day you hold her unless your market is on an upswing.
I agree I can get younger bred cows or heifers

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Re: Culling

Post by Bfields30 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:55 am

So I went to get my bull tested and he isn’t crazy or anything loaded good we got to vet and he went ballistic. As well as in the chute he was acting even crazier like trying to jump out never seen it before. They couldn’t get a good sample of semen to test so my vet told me come back before Christmas break . Basically he told me could’ve been cause he was nervous or it could be he could be infertile or something else. I was trying to find the reason he bred 5 and 5 were open . So i haven’t sold cows yet until I find out bull situation and move on from there really nervous because guy I bought him from got him tested for me before I bought him and he tested satisfactory . What possibly could happen to maybe have problems or go infertile and not do his job. Gonna suck paid a good amount of Money for him and to have to sell him if he’s infertile going to suck bad. Hid last test was in feb I’m hoping for good result in a few weeks when we go back.

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Re: Culling

Post by Redgully » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:33 am

I wonder if the behavior is a sign an underlying condition. Could he have some sort of injury.

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Re: Culling

Post by Bfields30 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:45 am

Redgully wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:33 am
I wonder if the behavior is a sign an underlying condition. Could he have some sort of injury.
What do you think it could be ? He will be 3 in feb. Never seen him act like that before he loaded fine at my house. But at the vet unloading was just bizerk I don’t know he’s still young.

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Re: Culling

Post by farmerjan » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:42 pm

Next time, take him with a cow to the vet. Sometimes a strange place will just freak them out. Run the cow in and out the chute and catch him up right behind her. Is there a small catch area right in front of the chute where she can stand and he can see/smell her? Anything to get him to realize this is not the "END OF THE WORLD" scary place to be. If he tests low then check possible reasons.... thin, bad summer/hot/poor grass..... whatever. If he was bought from a reputable breeder, I would talk to the person that sold him. Another thing.... get a blood test; make sure he doesn't have anything, trich, lepto .... if the cows have been exposed to lepto they could have been bred and slipped it. There are several things that can cause breeding problems.
If the cows are older, then just ship em and buy a few more breds or some with small calves..... you will have a chance to build up to some better cows this way and if they don't breed, and it is not the bull, then you don't need to keep them.

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Re: Culling

Post by farmerjan » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:46 pm

Also, vacc for LEPTO at the very least. It will not cause abortion. All our cows get lepto and blackleg every time they go through the chute. It is cheap insurance. Both are killed virus. Be sure to use the lepto that has the "hardjo" strain in it. I now use Triangle 10 every time a cow goes through for a preg check. All KV so will not cause abortions. Also hit them with blackleg as we have lost a few over the years to it. Especially use it on bought cows. You have no idea of what their immune systems have, and HAVE NOT been exposed to.

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