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Cost of baling hay

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:32 am

First cutting is done! Yahoo
We had 2 sunny days (8th & 9th) and got 70 acres done, then 3 days later had a sunny day & got the last 10 acres done. All put up as baleage - 52" and inline wrapped.
I do not own ANY hay equipment except the two spears on my tractor. Total labor & equipment cost was $15.72/bale. This will vary from year to year, depending on how many bales per acre. I got 5.13/acre. Mostly grass hay, just starting boot stage.
How does that compare to others?
I put 300#/acre fertilizer.


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Re: Cost of baling hay

Post by Son of Butch » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:56 am

Cut, baled and wrapped for $15.72 bale sounds like a bargain to me.

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Re: Cost of baling hay

Post by True Grit Farms » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:09 am

Cheap, it's $20+ a roll here. Plastic cost $3 a roll. So someone is willing to cut, rake, bale, then haul and wrap for less than $13 a roll using all their own equipment. Working that cheap I don't know how they can afford to pay their New York state property taxes.
If we'd of know this we'd of picked our own cotton.

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Re: Cost of baling hay

Post by Son of Butch » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:14 am

Owner/operator of baling equipment is not responsible for paying neighbors property taxes.

Heavy yield reduces per bale cost when charging by the acre.

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Re: Cost of baling hay

Post by Caustic Burno » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:20 am

Son of Butch wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:56 am
Cut, baled and wrapped for $15.72 bale sounds like a bargain to me.
I totally agree.
Back when I had all my equipment and with fertilizer cost, I had 36 dollars a roll in hay. It would scare the fire out of me to run the numbers today.
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Re: Cost of baling hay

Post by True Grit Farms » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:27 am

Son of Butch wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:14 am
Owner/operator of baling equipment is not responsible for paying neighbors property taxes.

Heavy yield reduces per bale cost when charging by the acre.
Not to the one doing the baling and wrapping.
If we'd of know this we'd of picked our own cotton.

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Re: Cost of baling hay

Post by Son of Butch » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:35 am

True Grit Farms wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:27 am
Son of Butch wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:14 am
Owner/operator of baling equipment is not responsible for paying neighbors property taxes.

Heavy yield reduces per bale cost when charging by the acre.
Not to the one doing the baling and wrapping.
Sure, but Jeanne made a deal with him to pay her own property tax, so that made him happy.

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Re: Cost of baling hay

Post by True Grit Farms » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:51 am

Son of Butch wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:35 am
True Grit Farms wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:27 am
Son of Butch wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:14 am
Owner/operator of baling equipment is not responsible for paying neighbors property taxes.

Heavy yield reduces per bale cost when charging by the acre.
Not to the one doing the baling and wrapping.
Sure, but Jeanne made a deal with him to pay her own property tax, so that made him happy.
"Working that cheap I don't know how they can afford to pay their New York state property taxes." Your reading comprehension leaves a little to be desired. I'd blame it brain freeze but it must be thawed out by now.
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Re: Cost of baling hay

Post by Son of Butch » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:12 pm

Who says he owns any property to be taxed?

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Re: Cost of baling hay

Post by True Grit Farms » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:25 pm

Son of Butch wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:12 pm
Who says he owns any property to be taxed?
Now that's a fair assumption.
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Re: Cost of baling hay

Post by Son of Butch » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:13 pm

Last week I received a copy of a 2019 custom rates guide compiled from over 2,800 farmers.

Minnesota hay mowing & conditioning $12 acre
New York " " " $16 acre

Minnesota Large Round baling $10 bale ($2 extra for net wrap)
New York " " " $10 bale ($2 extra for net wrap)

No rate mentioned for wrapping bales, closest I could find is filling silage bag $4 - $9 per foot

Miscellaneous that might be of interest to others: prices given are the national average.

broadcasting dry fertilizer $6.50 acre
broadcasting liquid fert.... 7.00 acre
broadcasting herbicide 7.50 acre

raking hay 6.00 acre
mowing hay 12.00 acre
brush hogging pasture 15.00 acre
seeding alfalfa/grasses 15.00 acre

Livestock hauling $3.00 per loaded mile

power washing $25 hour
post hole digging $5 hole

skid steer/loader $50 hr
bull dozing D6 or smaller 100 hr
bull dozing D7 or larger 120 hr

Silage - chop, transport and fill silo $10 ton
Silage chopping only $8 ton

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Re: Cost of baling hay

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:29 pm

Here's the breakdown:
$11 per bale
$80 per plastic roll
$16/acre mowing/conditioning
We did not rake this time.
this is a neighbor, been doing our hay for 30+ years. He does his first (has a very small dairy farm), then does mine --- then does other customers. I used to part of his hay crew. I ran the wrapper. Started with one of the first wrappers around, had hydrollic lines hooked from the tractor to the wrapper. One for the ram & one for the wheel. My nephew runs the wrapper now.
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Re: Cost of baling hay

Post by ALACOWMAN » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:37 pm

That's cheap enough...I could buy it about as cheap as I can make it..but I like too be self sufficient...I'm cheap in my equipment, and its there when I need it..and I hate too rely on another man for it..too many variables..
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Re: Cost of baling hay

Post by Son of Butch » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:48 pm

The numbers add up.
11 per bale
$3.12 per bale for mowing & condition (your good yield helped to keep the price down)
$1.60 per bale to wrap (I would have guessed $3 a bale to wrap)
$15.72 per bale harvested

And neighbor got paid $80.63 acre to harvest 80 acres of 1st crop hay.
So the burning question is: Will your neighbor bother to pay his property taxes?

Let's compare it with harvesting corn. Custom combining 30 - $35 acre (National average $33)
200 bushel corn x 15 cents a bu. hauling to local elevator to dry and store = $30 acre to transport

Let's pay extra for combining and give our guy $40 acre.
$40 acre combining + $30 acre to haul off the field = $70 acre

Harvesting hay $80 acre (1st crop only)
Harvesting corn $70 acre

hmmm.... seems to me maybe New York should raise their property taxes... :)

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Re: Cost of baling hay

Post by kilroy60 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:38 pm

Just to wrap hay here is $8 per roll. Cost just to bale (not cut/raked) is $10 per roll. Sounds like you got a deal with what you paid.

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