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Diseases that get a Cow Culled

Postby ABrauny » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:30 pm

What diseases should get a cow culled? I know I would cull a BVD-PI positive or Johnes positive animal, but are there other diseases that one should cull an animal as a result of?
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Re: Diseases that get a Cow Culled

Postby kerley » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:39 am

ABrauny wrote:What diseases should get a cow culled? I know I would cull a BVD-PI positive or Johnes positive animal, but are there other diseases that one should cull an animal as a result of?

I don't think Cattlemen would sell a diseased animal to his neighbors, he would draw the X and fire.
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Re: Diseases that get a Cow Culled

Postby ga.prime » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:55 am

kerley wrote:I don't think Cattlemen would sell a diseased animal to his neighbors, he would draw the X and fire.

You wouldn't sell it for slaughter, why?
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Re: Diseases that get a Cow Culled

Postby ANAZAZI » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:13 am

Sell to slaughter seems more reasonable.
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Re: Diseases that get a Cow Culled

Postby kerley » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:40 am

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kerley wrote:I don't think Cattlemen would sell a diseased animal to his neighbors, he would draw the X and fire.

You wouldn't sell it for slaughter, why?

I guess I'ts very possible that I'am wrong but I just feel that selling a diseased cow into the food chain would'nt be the correct thing to do. I do understand that there are many greedy folks that have few morals towards their fellow man and I personally would not want to put food on my family's table that was diseased, but that's just me, and one more reason that we raise our own beef. If you choose to eat a diseased cow yourself thats fine but don't sell the meat to unsuspecting folks to eat.
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Re: Diseases that get a Cow Culled

Postby ga.prime » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:33 am

So, I guess you must test all your animals for every disease known to science before you sell them or eat them? Because, how would you know if they had a disease if you didn't test for it? Then you shoot and dispose of them in a sanitary manner if they have any kind of disease? Do you think beef processing plants do this or should be required to do this?
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Re: Diseases that get a Cow Culled

Postby kerley » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:11 pm

ga.prime wrote:So, I guess you must test all your animals for every disease known to science before you sell them or eat them? Because, how would you know if they had a disease if you didn't test for it? Then you shoot and dispose of them in a sanitary manner if they have any kind of disease? Do you think beef processing plants do this or should be required to do this?

ga.prime, You can guess any be nice thing you choose, If I had a sick cow It would see the Vet. If i knowingly owned a diseased cow I would put it down rather than inter it into a food chain that even you might eat. I have no control over any beef processing plant. You are trying to start an arguement with me and you just failed. I suggest you continue guessing.
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Re: Diseases that get a Cow Culled

Postby ga.prime » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:55 pm

OK, I failed.
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Re: Diseases that get a Cow Culled

Postby Banjo » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:28 pm

ABrauny wrote:What diseases should get a cow culled? I know I would cull a BVD-PI positive or Johnes positive animal, but are there other diseases that one should cull an animal as a result of?


OK back on track here.....there are lots of things cattle should be culled for IMO other than just diseases. Like a bad disposition, cows with " bottle teats," I have a cow with two teats that are really huge .....so huge a young calf can't nurse them, it is being raised on the other two teats that are normal....the vet said I should sell her and I'm going to when I wean her calf.
Naturally a cow that won't breed back should be culled and possibly late calvers, one that doesn't breed easily if kept will pass that trait on to her young most likely.

That's my opinion.....feel free to make it yours.
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Re: Diseases that get a Cow Culled

Postby inyati13 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:49 am

I had a cow that had those huge teats that a newborn calf could not nurse. It was a nightmare getting the calf started and the cow would get mastitis. She was healthy so I sold her at the stockyards by the pound. I agree with kerley. If I know an animal has a disease that would make me uncomfortable eating it, then I could not sell it for someone else to eat. That is a personal standard and I am not concerned that someone else has a different standard. On the other hand, if I am selling an animal that appears healthy, then I do not feel an obligation of running extensive tests to determine that she has no disease.
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Re: Diseases that get a Cow Culled

Postby M.Magis » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:40 am

kerley wrote:
ga.prime wrote:So, I guess you must test all your animals for every disease known to science before you sell them or eat them? Because, how would you know if they had a disease if you didn't test for it? Then you shoot and dispose of them in a sanitary manner if they have any kind of disease? Do you think beef processing plants do this or should be required to do this?

ga.prime, You can guess any be nice thing you choose, If I had a sick cow It would see the Vet. If i knowingly owned a diseased cow I would put it down rather than inter it into a food chain that even you might eat. I have no control over any beef processing plant. You are trying to start an arguement with me and you just failed. I suggest you continue guessing.

I think you’re missing his point all together. No all diseases are something you can detect but simply looking at an animal. Many diseases go unknown for years. Is it safe to assume you don’t have every animal you sell tested for all known diseases? If not, there’s a decent chance you’ve sold diseased animals at some point or another. Same with any animals you have butchered. That doesn’t mean they’re unsafe to eat.
I don’t see anyone trying to start an argument, though I will say you were the one to get defensive and questioning peoples’ morals.
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Re: Diseases that get a Cow Culled

Postby hillbillycwo » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:13 am

I culled one that was prone to hoof rot. I have also heard that you should cull if they are prone to mastitis. To date thankfully I haven't had to deal with that yet. Typically when I have one get sick the vet fixes her or she is put down. I treat mine and the drug withdrawal typicaly is longer than death comes unless she gets over it.
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Re: Diseases that get a Cow Culled

Postby Dave » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:14 am

There are a number of diseases in cattle that are not going to affect the meat. The two mentioned by the OP, Johnes and BVD-PI are amounst them. When they were working to eraticating brucellosis thousands of infected animals were sent to slaughter. Just because an animal has a disease does not mean that it is transferable to humans.

Now if I had a cow that I knew had a disease that would transfer to humans. That cow would get a dose of lead between the running lights asap.
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Re: Diseases that get a Cow Culled

Postby kerley » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:40 pm

inyati13 wrote:I had a cow that had those huge teats that a newborn calf could not nurse. It was a nightmare getting the calf started and the cow would get mastitis. She was healthy so I sold her at the stockyards by the pound. I agree with kerley. If I know an animal has a disease that would make me uncomfortable eating it, then I could not sell it for someone else to eat. That is a personal standard and I am not concerned that someone else has a different standard. On the other hand, if I am selling an animal that appears healthy, then I do not feel an obligation of running extensive tests to determine that she has no disease.

Thank you, my feelings exactly.
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Re: Diseases that get a Cow Culled

Postby kerley » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:46 pm

Banjo wrote:
ABrauny wrote:What diseases should get a cow culled? I know I would cull a BVD-PI positive or Johnes positive animal, but are there other diseases that one should cull an animal as a result of?


OK back on track here.....there are lots of things cattle should be culled for IMO other than just diseases. Like a bad disposition, cows with " bottle teats," I have a cow with two teats that are really huge .....so huge a young calf can't nurse them, it is being raised on the other two teats that are normal....the vet said I should sell her and I'm going to when I wean her calf.
Naturally a cow that won't breed back should be culled and possibly late calvers, one that doesn't breed easily if kept will pass that trait on to her young most likely.

I agree with you Banjo, but there is a difference in culling a cow because of disposition and a disease that could spred to a unsuspecting cattlemans herd, or be eaten.
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