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Post by Petercoates87 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:26 pm

So my vet today talked to me about ralgro implants. What's everyone's thoughts??



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Re: Implants

Post by Bcompton53 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:37 pm

We use synovex c. Seems like everyone is doing it. Unfortunately I don’t run enough consistent cattle to really see if it’s worth it. But like $1 each, not much risk

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Re: Implants

Post by bird dog » Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:40 pm

What did your vet say? Use them or don't?

Personally I use them at first work and weaning. If they only add half as many pounds as the company and independent research suggests, then its a pretty good return on my investment.

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Re: Implants

Post by Petercoates87 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:58 pm

My vet is actually all for it. She brought it up to me. I've been a drug free kinda guy but with a lil research I noticed a lot are doing it. I run a high fiber and high protein diet but if I could make a much better marble beef and a fatter healthier cows that would be nice. For example i just butchered a 16 month old holstein bull that dressed 540lbs. Which I thought was pretty good. I have a 6 month old bull calf I bought to breed next season Hereford angus cross that's 660lbs live weight. I could only imagine what he might dress if I put him on it. It could put me above the rest here in Newfoundland too. No one else here is at it according to the vet.

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Re: Implants

Post by farmerjan » Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:24 pm

Be careful of implants and breeding animals.......
We don't use implants. Son has talked about trying it on the steers.... I absolutely refuse to allow it on the heifers. I don't want to take any chances on possible breeding problems, although I know some claim to be no problems.... and I want to see how they grow on their own before I commit to keeping them for replacements. But I am not for them in general.
I also am a killed virus vaccine person too. Don't want to have any possible problems with mlv.... and I don't have to be careful who is going through the chute either with the killed..... Have had several diagnosed open here in the last year that were actually short bred; mlv would have caused them to abort. I have a half dozen calves that would not be here. So I am not going to do it. Killed, with a followup booster, and using it on everyone, has been working out very well for me.

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Re: Implants

Post by midTN_Brangusman » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:46 am

I use Ralgro implants on my feeder steers, those calves will gain 20-25 more pounds than they would without. For the price of a couple bucks, its a no brainer. However, we do not implant bulls or heifers that will be sold for breeding purposes.

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Re: Implants

Post by Ky hills » Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:02 am

We don’t implant any anymore. Parents used to run feeder calves and implants were part of the vet program that they received when first brought in. I’m not opposed to the practice for feeder calves but would certainly not want any thing implanted that was a possibility for a breeding animal. A few years ago the AI tech that was breeding some heifers here told me that another customer had some heifers that had been implanted and they had a time getting them bred.
On the subject of MLV vaccines, I don’t like to use those either. We do use them on our calves that go into certain types of sales as they are required, but that is the extent of it.

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Re: Implants

Post by Silver » Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:27 pm

I read an article the other day that claimed less than one third of producers are implanting their calves anymore, compared to two thirds 20 years ago or so. I've been considering implanting again, it's probably the best ROI in ranching.

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Re: Implants

Post by midTN_Brangusman » Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:34 pm

Silver wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:27 pm
I read an article the other day that claimed less than one third of producers are implanting their calves anymore, compared to two thirds 20 years ago or so. I've been considering implanting again, it's probably the best ROI in ranching.
You wont regret it. I implant mine at weaning when i give vaccination/worming, then i will reworm and reimplant at 90 days. This has worked well for me.

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Re: Implants

Post by kenny thomas » Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:12 pm

I heard the question ask to the head Vet at VA tech. He stated that he usually waited for the cow to get the calf licked clean because it was hard to hold the ear if it wasn't cleaned up. Same with banding.
My thoughts only, don't bet the farm on them. KT

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Re: Implants

Post by TLM1988 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:22 am

Anyone ever implanted feeder bulls before they cut em?? I’ve got 11 bulls calves around 375-400 that I’m planning to cut as soon as it dries up or starts freezing. Just wondering if the results are the same

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Re: Implants

Post by Richnm » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:19 am

Double the dose of implants and top dress some grain with Creatine Monohydrate 2 grams per head per day the last 30 days. You will add 100 pounds on just creatine.

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Re: Implants

Post by Bigfoot » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:50 am

Richnm wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:19 am
Double the dose of implants and top dress some grain with Creatine Monohydrate 2 grams per head per day the last 30 days. You will add 100 pounds on just creatine.
You getting it at like a health food store?
Your not a small business owner. Your a stay at home mom trapped in a pyramid scheme.

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Re: Implants

Post by Bigfoot » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:51 am

TLM1988 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:22 am
Anyone ever implanted feeder bulls before they cut em?? I’ve got 11 bulls calves around 375-400 that I’m planning to cut as soon as it dries up or starts freezing. Just wondering if the results are the same
I have made some look staggy before, but not enough that I quit the practice.
Your not a small business owner. Your a stay at home mom trapped in a pyramid scheme.

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Re: Implants

Post by Richnm » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:21 am

Bigfoot wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:50 am
Richnm wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:19 am
Double the dose of implants and top dress some grain with Creatine Monohydrate 2 grams per head per day the last 30 days. You will add 100 pounds on just creatine.
You getting it at like a health food store?
Yes, or online. Make sure it’s monohydrate. A kilo is about $30.

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