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Yeast cultures and the benefits

Post by Brookhill Angus » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:36 pm

I read this article in Progressive Cattle recently and was glad to see that this is being discussed on a larger scale.

http://bit.ly/2GbtB5H

Now I know that many of you bust my chops for feeding grain every night to the ENTIRE herd, yes the entire herd, even though we have excellent pasture. There is a reason. The grain I have mixed up has YEAST cultures added to it, along with Biotin, and other vitamins. I also use Multimin 90 for any Selenium deficiencies that might occur.

I've been reading a LOT about proper Ph in a cow or heifer and how it affects fertility. So far my gals have been highly fertile, and I would like to keep it that way. I think that the yeast has made a big difference in more ways than one. I also think that getting those cultures into a cow on strictly grass probably won't happen. I could be wrong.

Anything for an added edge in fertility I will do.


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Re: Yeast cultures and the benefits

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:00 pm

That was an excellent article - but - it is all related to feeding CALVES not cows.
I am not denying that your cattle are fertile, and I sure agree that any added benefit for breeding is great, but at what cost?
The normal/average cattle producer cannot justify the cost of grain for cows. My herd is a bit above average, and I sure cannot justify it. I do feed sodium bicarb along side our free choice mineral a little before & during our breeding season.
Edit: I do feed a product that has live yeast in it to my show cattle - which greatly helps keep their system stable through stress and helps convert feed better. There is no denying it is a healthy, beneficial product.
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Re: Yeast cultures and the benefits

Post by Brookhill Angus » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:28 pm

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:00 pm
That was an excellent article - but - it is all related to feeding CALVES not cows.
I am not denying that your cattle are fertile, and I sure agree that any added benefit for breeding is great, but at what cost?
The normal/average cattle producer cannot justify the cost of grain for cows. My herd is a bit above average, and I sure cannot justify it. I do feed sodium bicarb along side our free choice mineral a little before & during our breeding season.
Edit: I do feed a product that has live yeast in it to my show cattle - which greatly helps keep their system stable through stress and helps convert feed better. There is no denying it is a healthy, beneficial product.
The reason I posted this is due to conversations that I have been having with my Vet about fertility issues she is witnessing in the area. I think not getting one's cattle settled quickly is more costly than feeding them, but I do understand where you are coming from.
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Re: Yeast cultures and the benefits

Post by Redgully » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:38 am

I tried using yeast, can't remember the brand but may have been levucell. I collected a sample of manure from before and every day for three weeks after feeding on a couple of cows. They said the particle size of grass would reduce as their digestion increased the ability to get more out of their feed. Didn't make any difference whatsoever. I think for weaning time on calves it would be worth using or even if a sudden change in feed. But i did a few more trials and could never see any gain at all.

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Re: Yeast cultures and the benefits

Post by TexasBred » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:59 pm

Brookhill Angus wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:36 pm
I read this article in Progressive Cattle recently and was glad to see that this is being discussed on a larger scale.

http://bit.ly/2GbtB5H

Now I know that many of you bust my chops for feeding grain every night to the ENTIRE herd, yes the entire herd, even though we have excellent pasture. There is a reason. The grain I have mixed up has YEAST cultures added to it, along with Biotin, and other vitamins. I also use Multimin 90 for any Selenium deficiencies that might occur.

I've been reading a LOT about proper Ph in a cow or heifer and how it affects fertility. So far my gals have been highly fertile, and I would like to keep it that way. I think that the yeast has made a big difference in more ways than one. I also think that getting those cultures into a cow on strictly grass probably won't happen. I could be wrong.

Anything for an added edge in fertility I will do.
Vigortone mineral contains yeast. I'll stop right there.
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Re: Yeast cultures and the benefits

Post by Dsteim » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:15 am

Brookhill Angus wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:28 pm
Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:00 pm
That was an excellent article - but - it is all related to feeding CALVES not cows.
I am not denying that your cattle are fertile, and I sure agree that any added benefit for breeding is great, but at what cost?
The normal/average cattle producer cannot justify the cost of grain for cows. My herd is a bit above average, and I sure cannot justify it. I do feed sodium bicarb along side our free choice mineral a little before & during our breeding season.
Edit: I do feed a product that has live yeast in it to my show cattle - which greatly helps keep their system stable through stress and helps convert feed better. There is no denying it is a healthy, beneficial product.
The reason I posted this is due to conversations that I have been having with my Vet about fertility issues she is witnessing in the area. I think not getting one's cattle settled quickly is more costly than feeding them, but I do understand where you are coming from.
Fertility has as much to do with the producer as it does the cow. The only way I see to have a truly fertile cow herd is by breeding it. It’s a whole lot harder to cull something for breeding back late when you have a dollar amount attached to it as opposed to something you raised.

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Re: Yeast cultures and the benefits

Post by Brookhill Angus » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:46 am

TexasBred wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:59 pm
Brookhill Angus wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:36 pm
I read this article in Progressive Cattle recently and was glad to see that this is being discussed on a larger scale.

http://bit.ly/2GbtB5H

Now I know that many of you bust my chops for feeding grain every night to the ENTIRE herd, yes the entire herd, even though we have excellent pasture. There is a reason. The grain I have mixed up has YEAST cultures added to it, along with Biotin, and other vitamins. I also use Multimin 90 for any Selenium deficiencies that might occur.

I've been reading a LOT about proper Ph in a cow or heifer and how it affects fertility. So far my gals have been highly fertile, and I would like to keep it that way. I think that the yeast has made a big difference in more ways than one. I also think that getting those cultures into a cow on strictly grass probably won't happen. I could be wrong.

Anything for an added edge in fertility I will do.
Vigortone mineral contains yeast. I'll stop right there.
The mineral I use contains yeast as well.
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Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:13 am

Thus - you don't need to feed grain to feed the yeast.
Thanks TB - hubby would have known that, and at one time I might have, but forgotten. (really?? forgot?? not me!)
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Post by Ebenezer » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:23 am

Dairy publications have a bunch of yeast products and info. For example, top end minerals have yeast in them to provide the selenium.

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Post by ALACOWMAN » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:24 am

Dsteim wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:15 am
Brookhill Angus wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:28 pm
Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:00 pm
That was an excellent article - but - it is all related to feeding CALVES not cows.
I am not denying that your cattle are fertile, and I sure agree that any added benefit for breeding is great, but at what cost?
The normal/average cattle producer cannot justify the cost of grain for cows. My herd is a bit above average, and I sure cannot justify it. I do feed sodium bicarb along side our free choice mineral a little before & during our breeding season.
Edit: I do feed a product that has live yeast in it to my show cattle - which greatly helps keep their system stable through stress and helps convert feed better. There is no denying it is a healthy, beneficial product.
The reason I posted this is due to conversations that I have been having with my Vet about fertility issues she is witnessing in the area. I think not getting one's cattle settled quickly is more costly than feeding them, but I do understand where you are coming from.
Fertility has as much to do with the producer as it does the cow. The only way I see to have a truly fertile cow herd is by breeding it. It’s a whole lot harder to cull something for breeding back late when you have a dollar amount attached to it as opposed to something you raised.
I don't want to feed fertility in one..how do you know what you actually have. You might be masking some problem... But The deeper I get in Angus the more fertile they are, early...
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Re: Yeast cultures and the benefits

Post by Dsteim » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:56 am

ALACOWMAN wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:24 am
Dsteim wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:15 am
Brookhill Angus wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:28 pm


The reason I posted this is due to conversations that I have been having with my Vet about fertility issues she is witnessing in the area. I think not getting one's cattle settled quickly is more costly than feeding them, but I do understand where you are coming from.
Fertility has as much to do with the producer as it does the cow. The only way I see to have a truly fertile cow herd is by breeding it. It’s a whole lot harder to cull something for breeding back late when you have a dollar amount attached to it as opposed to something you raised.
I don't want to feed fertility in one..how do you know what you actually have. You might be masking some problem... But The deeper I get in Angus the more fertile they are, early...
How much you have to feed them has more to do with how big of a mature cow you want. What do you mean by angus being more fertile early?

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Re: Yeast cultures and the benefits

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:22 pm

Dsteim wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:56 am
ALACOWMAN wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:24 am
Dsteim wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:15 am


Fertility has as much to do with the producer as it does the cow. The only way I see to have a truly fertile cow herd is by breeding it. It’s a whole lot harder to cull something for breeding back late when you have a dollar amount attached to it as opposed to something you raised.
I don't want to feed fertility in one..how do you know what you actually have. You might be masking some problem... But The deeper I get in Angus the more fertile they are, early...
How much you have to feed them has more to do with how big of a mature cow you want. What do you mean by angus being more fertile early?
Angus are one of the earliest maturing of the cattle breeds.
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Re: Yeast cultures and the benefits

Post by Dsteim » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:30 pm

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:22 pm
Dsteim wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:56 am
ALACOWMAN wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:24 am

I don't want to feed fertility in one..how do you know what you actually have. You might be masking some problem... But The deeper I get in Angus the more fertile they are, early...
How much you have to feed them has more to do with how big of a mature cow you want. What do you mean by angus being more fertile early?
Angus are one of the earliest maturing of the cattle breeds.
Right but most people breed their heifers at 12-14 months. What’s the advantage of having a heifer cycle at 7 months versus 9 or 10 months?

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Re: Yeast cultures and the benefits

Post by Brookhill Angus » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:38 pm

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:13 am
Thus - you don't need to feed grain to feed the yeast.
Thanks TB - hubby would have known that, and at one time I might have, but forgotten. (really?? forgot?? not me!)
Jeanne, I really need to get you the label, there is a lot more in the mix than just grain alone.
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Post by Brookhill Angus » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:40 pm

Dsteim wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:30 pm
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:22 pm
Dsteim wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:56 am


How much you have to feed them has more to do with how big of a mature cow you want. What do you mean by angus being more fertile early?
Angus are one of the earliest maturing of the cattle breeds.
Right but most people breed their heifers at 12-14 months. What’s the advantage of having a heifer cycle at 7 months versus 9 or 10 months?
I had two cycle recently at 8 months and I wouldn't dare breed them. We hold them off till about 14 months. I suppose if you wanted to breed really early and use a high CED, low BW bull with a lot of accuracy, then it could be done, but it's not what I want to do.
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