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WT things of 2019

Post by cowgirl8 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:44 pm

Had a bull with a penis injury, looked typical for a breeding injury. One of our best bulls, of course, so off to the vet he went today to see if he can be salvaged. Never fails, one of the bulls is going to get injured, we can almost count on it.
Turns out, the bull had a snake bite on his penis. Bless his heart. Not sure of the type of snake, but i'm guessing Cottonmouth or Copperhead. Then again, the bull is where we see the most rattlers. But, vet says he's out for the rest of the season.
Another first for us was Red Water. Now, my husband cant remember to set his coffee cup into the sink when he's done. He instead sets it on the counter 2 inches from the sink, leaving a coffee ring for me to clean... But, someone tells him something 30 years ago and he remembers that. A vet told him when we moved here, our area is prone to Red Water, the type picked up off the ground. Cow was sick, he blurts out Red Water.. that's before he saw any symptoms.. I sat with the cow while they got meds, and I witnessed her pee dark red pee that foamed.. Son talked with our vet and he believes it was red water also.. Cow was dead the next morning..so we were unable to get her there for a 100% diagnosis. But it was a what the heck thing.
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Re: WT things of 2019

Post by Bright Raven » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:06 pm

Interesting, not good news but interesting. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by cowgirl8 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:58 pm

We again had a calf break a leg, yet, it did heal. He's a little stunted, but doing well now. Other than that we've had a pretty calm calving season.
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Re: WT things of 2019

Post by TN Cattle Man » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:05 pm

Red Water??? That's one I've never heard of... what is it?
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Post by cowgirl8 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:08 pm

TN Cattle Man wrote:
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Red Water??? That's one I've never heard of... what is it?
There are 2 types, one is transmitted by ticks and one off the ground. Our cow most likely had the one off the ground since there were no ticks at that time.. but who knows. You can google it to find out more about it. I only know what I've stated..other than the cow pees dark red urine that foams..
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Post by jehosofat » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:13 pm

You beat all I've ever seen, gotta be the only person in the country that's had a rattlesnake bite your bull's crank.

He was probably running from a cougar and tripped and fell in a snakepit.

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Post by cowgirl8 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:46 am

jehosofat wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:13 pm
You beat all I've ever seen, gotta be the only person in the country that's had a rattlesnake bite your bull's crank.

He was probably running from a cougar and tripped and fell in a snakepit.
Haha, yeah, probably so...
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Post by cow pollinater » Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:48 am

I think most of the clostridial vaccines cover redwater. I know the oneshot does.

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Post by Bright Raven » Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:44 am

There are 2 diseases called red water. If this is tick borne Redwater it is not a Clostridial. Tick borne Redwater is called Bovine Babesiosis and is caused by a single cell parasite - Babesia bovis. Ticks are the vector.

You mentioned this is probably contracted by picking it up off the ground. That is probably Clostridial. Covexin 8 covers it.
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Post by 76 Bar » Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:34 am

Clostridial "Red Water"
https://www.merckvetmanual.com/generali ... globinuria
The "8 Way" Clostridial Vaccines include a bacillary-hemoglobinuria component. Its an age old issue where I ranch and mandatory in my vaccination program. Initial shot followed up by a booster 4–6 weeks later.

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Post by M-5 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:41 am

cow pollinater wrote:
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I think most of the clostridial vaccines cover redwater. I know the oneshot does.
are you saying the OP does not vaccinate??
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Post by cowgirl8 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:43 pm

We use that vaccine.. I suppose it could have been tick red water, although I have yet to see a tick and it was in Feb when this happened... Since she died before morning, we were unable to take her to the vet.
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Post by Dave » Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:19 pm

I used Ultra Bac 8 because it dealt with Redwater. I think if you looked up Redwater in the vet text books they would have a picture of my pasture over on the coast.

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Re: WT things of 2019

Post by wbvs58 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:08 pm

We have Babesia down on the coastal area. Cattle that are born in the tick country develop natural immunity and are not affected. The big problem is with cattle introduced from tick free areas and they will succumb to Babesiosis if they are not blooded with a trivalent Babesia/Anaplasma vaccine.

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Post by cowgirl8 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:52 pm

Dave wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:19 pm
I used Ultra Bac 8 because it dealt with Redwater. I think if you looked up Redwater in the vet text books they would have a picture of my pasture over on the coast.
The vet who mentioned it to my husband, told him over 30 years ago and said our area was really bad. 1000's of cows and 30+years later, we get our first case. Was a pet cow too.... her name was 454 and even though was never a pet, wanted to be one bad. She'd let you pet all over her in the pasture.(something commercial cows aren't known for very often)
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