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Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:01 pm
by Brookhill Angus
Ebenezer wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:54 pm
Brookhill Angus wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:40 am
Lucky_P wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:42 am
Didja ever get a diagnosis from the UK diagnostic lab?
Yes, they sent the results to our Vet yesterday and they were inconclusive. They could not determine her cause of death. I’m pretty certain she got herself in a position where she could not get up. Her feet were pointing uphill when we found her.

As for her chemical tests, she was completely healthy.

Just a case of bad luck overall.
Obesity has consequences.
I was waiting for your comment. She was one of our smaller cows, as I have mentioned before. My cows that are easily 200-300 pounds heavier aren't having any issues at all. They are dying. They are doing just fine.

I appreciate your keen analysis of the situation however.

Just curious, at what weight range do cows avoid any accidents, 1100-1300 pound mature weight? Just curious.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:06 pm
by Ebenezer
Brookhill Angus wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:01 pm
Ebenezer wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:54 pm
Brookhill Angus wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:40 am


Yes, they sent the results to our Vet yesterday and they were inconclusive. They could not determine her cause of death. I’m pretty certain she got herself in a position where she could not get up. Her feet were pointing uphill when we found her.

As for her chemical tests, she was completely healthy.

Just a case of bad luck overall.
Obesity has consequences.
I was waiting for your comment. She was one of our smaller cows, as I have mentioned before. My cows that are easily 200-300 pounds heavier aren't having any issues at all. They are dying. They are doing just fine.

I appreciate your keen analysis of the situation however.

Just curious, at what weight range do cows avoid any accidents, 1100-1300 pound mature weight? Just curious.
You are curious.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:37 pm
by TennesseeTuxedo
I lost my favorite Hereford cow last fall. She got down on a steep slope up against a fence and died before anyone was aware of the situation. It was during a very wet period.

I'd guess her weight at no more than 1,100 pounds.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:57 pm
by TCRanch
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:37 pm
I lost my favorite Hereford cow last fall. She got down on a steep slope up against a fence and died before anyone was aware of the situation. It was during a very wet period.

I'd guess her weight at no more than 1,100 pounds.
Ooh, hurts worse when it's a fave. Sorry for your loss. Big or little, fat or thin, they're gonna find a way to die.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:52 pm
by Brookhill Angus
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:37 pm
I lost my favorite Hereford cow last fall. She got down on a steep slope up against a fence and died before anyone was aware of the situation. It was during a very wet period.

I'd guess her weight at no more than 1,100 pounds.
I’m sorry about your loss. It can all happen in the blink of an eye.

That’s one reason I use so much sexed semen, I’m wanting plenty of replacements for all that can and will possibly happen.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:27 pm
by CreekAngus
Brookhill Angus wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:37 pm
Bright Raven wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:23 am
Lucky_P wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:19 am
Grass tetany?
Retired, so I'm out of touch with what's going on across the state, but it's that time of year... saw a press release from Dr. Arnold earlier this week, and a Drovers article about numerous GT deaths in MO...
Lucky,

Our grass over here is still pretty puny. Only in the last 3 days has it started. Plus, Brookhill uses excellent mineral (I think he said he found a mineral better than Vitaferm which he had been using).

Just some information to consider!
No report back yet from U.K., we delivered her yesterday morning.

Here is my best guess, she laid down after eating, got herself in a position where she had trouble, perhaps she was bloated, not sure, then could not get up. She was in a position when I found her with her legs uphill. I'm chalking it up to a freak accident.

She was not one of the bigger cows, she was around 1700 pounds, never a ravenous eater like some of the others.

I prefer to see her in this light, R.I.P. you great momma.

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I truly appreciate all the comments from the folks on CT. They have helped me a lot, believe it or not.

Time to move on, things happen, that's cattle for you, that's life for you. We have lost 3 cows in the past 5 years, we are almost obsessive about their care, but no matter how hard you may try to prevent things, there is always the outlier that hits. The other two passed because of leg issues, one went into a groundhog hole, broke her leg, nearly certain of it, and the other slipped near a hilly area and suffered a stifle injury. None of which we could have prevented unless we followed them around 24/7. Again, thank you all for the kind words.
With that much ear you sure that ain’t a Brangus. Brookhill I like to give you grief, but I’m sorry you lost that cow, she looks like a nice one. I could tell from the picture she struggled, her demise is one of the reasons I yell at my daughter when we work cows, work fast, be diligent and limit the stress. Cows don’t do stress at all.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:31 pm
by CreekAngus
Ebenezer wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:54 pm
Brookhill Angus wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:40 am
Lucky_P wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:42 am
Didja ever get a diagnosis from the UK diagnostic lab?
Yes, they sent the results to our Vet yesterday and they were inconclusive. They could not determine her cause of death. I’m pretty certain she got herself in a position where she could not get up. Her feet were pointing uphill when we found her.

As for her chemical tests, she was completely healthy.

Just a case of bad luck overall.
Obesity has consequences.
That was a low blow and uncalled for, raise your own cattle as you see fit. Not cool.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:21 am
by Brookhill Angus
CreekAngus wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:27 pm
Brookhill Angus wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:37 pm
Bright Raven wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:23 am


Lucky,

Our grass over here is still pretty puny. Only in the last 3 days has it started. Plus, Brookhill uses excellent mineral (I think he said he found a mineral better than Vitaferm which he had been using).

Just some information to consider!
No report back yet from U.K., we delivered her yesterday morning.

Here is my best guess, she laid down after eating, got herself in a position where she had trouble, perhaps she was bloated, not sure, then could not get up. She was in a position when I found her with her legs uphill. I'm chalking it up to a freak accident.

She was not one of the bigger cows, she was around 1700 pounds, never a ravenous eater like some of the others.

I prefer to see her in this light, R.I.P. you great momma.

265

266

I truly appreciate all the comments from the folks on CT. They have helped me a lot, believe it or not.

Time to move on, things happen, that's cattle for you, that's life for you. We have lost 3 cows in the past 5 years, we are almost obsessive about their care, but no matter how hard you may try to prevent things, there is always the outlier that hits. The other two passed because of leg issues, one went into a groundhog hole, broke her leg, nearly certain of it, and the other slipped near a hilly area and suffered a stifle injury. None of which we could have prevented unless we followed them around 24/7. Again, thank you all for the kind words.
With that much ear you sure that ain’t a Brangus. Brookhill I like to give you grief, but I’m sorry you lost that cow, she looks like a nice one. I could tell from the picture she struggled, her demise is one of the reasons I yell at my daughter when we work cows, work fast, be diligent and limit the stress. Cows don’t do stress at all.
Thank you.

I totally agree with the stress comment.

I read an article once where the owner of Peter Luger’s steakhouse in Brooklyn said that she avoided beef that showed signs of stress, they could spot it immediately when examining the carcass.

The very best is never stressed. In my opinion.