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Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:10 am
by Bright Raven
That is one of the downsides to life. You told me about this. I still think she might have gotten overcentered even on level ground. I saw W.B. also mention that. Your cows are big and heavy. Right now with this nice weather, I notice cows laying over totally on their side instead of on their sternum. A big cow can struggle getting her legs back under her.

BTW: there was absolutely no lightning associated with the storm. It was just a very light rain. I assume it was the same over there.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:04 am
by Rydero
Sorry about the loss, never nice to lose a cow. I'd tend to agree it could have been overcentered especially after last night because we had one here. My calving shift runs to 2 am and I had a heifer calve. I decided to make sure the calf nursed before sleep so I stayed out there till 3. Noticed another calving so when I went to bed I let my wife know. By 4 she was waking me up because the one calving was on her back. Ended up she was in such a pickle I needed the tractor to get her up. Joke is around here that my wife tips them, she's saved 3 or 4 already over the last couple years, we lost a couple too, not always when calving.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:27 am
by Silver
Generally if they expired from being on their back there is quite a sign of struggle.
Also, I've found the best way to get them back on their feet (when the tractor isn't immediately handy) is to grab them by the tail and pull towards the head. The downside to this procedure is that cows rescued from this predicament are very seldom thankful towards the rescuer, so it is wise to have an escape plan.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:28 am
by 76 Bar
Sorry you lost a cow. Looking forward to the autopsy report. Considering she was on flat terrain and aside from the slight depression at her head it doesn't appear she struggled if at all. Considering you'd observed her the previous day and all was well and unless it was usually hot I'd be suspicious of how quickly she bloated.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:46 am
by Rydero
Silver wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:27 am
Generally if they expired from being on their back there is quite a sign of struggle.
Also, I've found the best way to get them back on their feet (when the tractor isn't immediately handy) is to grab them by the tail and pull towards the head. The downside to this procedure is that cows rescued from this predicament are very seldom thankful towards the rescuer, so it is wise to have an escape plan.
Two of us couldn't right her. In a hole, front foot through a panel, head curled up against it, calf feet sticking out. We could've pulled her tail all night, it was a full on clusterfunk, lmao. They can sure get themselves in trouble!

The autopsy will tell. Seen some where there's big sign of trouble, others where there isn't. Hard to say.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:54 am
by W.B.
The fact she is left side up makes me think that she overcentered. I have seen some that fought hard to stay alive and I have seen some give up rather easily. Just really hard to understand sometimes. I am sorry for your loss Brookhill. Hang in there if this business were easy every one would be doing it. No one is promised tomorrow and that applies to cattle as well.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:54 am
by Davemk
Read this thread. Walked out the door to the barn and there in the feedlot is my sons show steer dead from bloat. Not a good day.


Sorry for your loss Brookhill.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:00 pm
by Bright Raven
Davemk wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:54 am
Read this thread. Walked out the door to the barn and there in the feedlot is my sons show steer dead from bloat. Not a good day.


Sorry for your loss Brookhill.

Gosh dang. Very sorry Dave.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:21 pm
by Silver
Sorry to hear that Dave.

I came across a week old calf laying on the ground kicking and grunting bloated up two days ago. Fortunately I had was in time to let the air out and and give her Resflor. Hasn't looked back yet, hopefully she keeps on keeping on.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:27 pm
by gcreekrch
An old Norsk from this country always said, "He who has must lose."

Never fun to lose them.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:47 pm
by Nesikep
Dave and Brookhill.. that sucks for both.
I've actually had a pretty good year, though I've had a lot of close calls, Today a first timer had a 100ish lb heifer calf, both front legs facing the wrong way, a prolapse 4 nights ago, that was a stressful night and I looked like an axe murderer by the end of it, and 2 weeks ago another first timer had a calf I swore I'd pull in half getting it out.. However, they're all doing well

Go watch some calves play.. really helps with the blood pressure.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:05 am
by Silver
I finally got the picture to enlarge. The armchair vet in me agrees with the above posts that bloat was the cause. She was obviously flailing her head and feet around.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:14 am
by slick4591
Sorry for your loss, Brookhill.

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:19 am
by Lucky_P
Grass tetany?
Retired, so I'm out of touch with what's going on across the state, but it's that time of year... saw a press release from Dr. Arnold earlier this week, and a Drovers article about numerous GT deaths in MO...

Re: Our President calf lost his mommy today. Very sad moment for us at Brookhill

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:23 am
by Bright Raven
Lucky_P wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:19 am
Grass tetany?
Retired, so I'm out of touch with what's going on across the state, but it's that time of year... saw a press release from Dr. Arnold earlier this week, and a Drovers article about numerous GT deaths in MO...
Lucky,

Our grass over here is still pretty puny. Only in the last 3 days has it started. Plus, Brookhill uses excellent mineral (I think he said he found a mineral better than Vitaferm which he had been using).

Just some information to consider!