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Re: Welfare case with a problem, what would U do?

Postby Alan » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:31 am

tsmaxx47 wrote:if you're asking what i would do; i would mind my own business and be happy i didn't have to eat that way......


Yea the kid had the card and the pin number, but he was forced to buy candy and chips instead of a frozen meal, can of soup, can of chili, Mac and cheese, hamburger helper, can of tuna, bread..... All of which is sold in that store. Good point he was forced to buy what he did with my tax dollars, after all my tax dollars are spent wisely buy folks with the knowledge to know what's best done with my money. I am minding my own business.

My heart goes out to the poor welfare folks forced to have to get free candy and chips!

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Re: Welfare case with a problem, what would U do?

Postby JSCATTLE » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:56 am

I agree 100% Alan . Nothing should be free. If you can walk you can work . Even if it's for food stamps . Making them work would solve a few of the problems the poor supposedly have . On the job training provides them with food and makes them feel like they are accomplishing something . It's time that people in this country stop feeling sorry for everyone and make them take care of them selves.
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Re: Welfare case with a problem, what would U do?

Postby highgrit » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:16 am

I have no problem with my tax dollars being spent on tubal ligation, and vasectomy's for dead beat parents. If you can't feed them don't breed them. We need a change. I'am still waiting for my free phone.
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Re: Welfare case with a problem, what would U do?

Postby kerley » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:36 am

Bigfoot wrote:
Red Bull Breeder wrote:Bigfoot these folk are taking pity on the needy and here you are a bragging about that good stuff you had to eat for a year. be nice i been eating beans and taters all my life.



You know you are right. I'm still eating them to. I guess when it's by choice they taste different.

It all depends on who is doing the cooking. My Kathy makes great Beans, Taters and anything else that she prepares. Lucky me.
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Re: Welfare case with a problem, what would U do?

Postby Ouachita » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:05 am

It's funny how just one or two "run-ins" with these folks makes a lasting impression. A few years ago I was in the check out line, checking out a very attractive young lady, dressed in what appeared to be her go to meeting clothes. She was alone, no kids, lots of groceries. Pulls out one of those food stamp credit cards from her purse and hands it to the cashier. As I was checking to see if her legs matched her face, I noticed a folded Franklin laying on the floor. I considered that it could not be hers, or she would have used it. I leaned down, picked it up with intentions of presenting it to her and the cashier. I didn't even get stood back up before plucked it from my hand, with a "how dare you" look on her face. She didn't thank me for finding her $100 bucks, nor for her groceries.
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Re: Welfare case with a problem, what would U do?

Postby chrisy » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:10 am

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chrisy wrote:probably the only way the poor kid gets anything from his parents, it is most likely his weekly allowance, better that than nothing at all. not his fault his parents are a waste of space. JMO

Not the governments or my responsibility to provide allowances for other peoples kids. I never got an allowance as a kid, though at the time i would have liked one. From the time I was 8 or 9 I worked my summers and weekends with my parent's landscaping company. I couldnt do much but I could pull weeds and be their go for.
Just think its pathedic the entitlement mentality that people have. Some people grow up with everything they want and others scrap by, thats the way its always been. Its the individuals responsibility to better themselves.

No it is not your or the Governments responsibilty to provide for others kids, but if the Government didn't that poor kid and others like him would probably have nothing...OK you didn't get pocket money but I'm sure you got treats of some kind, as your Mum and Dad cared for you, you had a warm bed and meal each day and no doubt a cuddle from time to time. Do you think these kids do, they are probably their parents keepers, most are no hopers kids probably would be better of in the Welfare system at least they would have something.
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Re: Welfare case with a problem, what would U do?

Postby dun » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:14 am

It sure is great that everyone knows all of the circumstances behind things before they start bad mouthing people!
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Re: Welfare case with a problem, what would U do?

Postby Alan » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:34 am

dun wrote:It sure is great that everyone knows all of the circumstances behind things before they start bad mouthing people!


Just to keep beating on this dead horse, here's what I do know; he wasn't getting potatoes, bread, rice, cheese ect. He was getting candy, chips and pop. He was not buying, he was receiving junk food from taxpayers. The welfare card was not his, I did make the assumption the card was his mothers, I could have been from a friends mothers, moms drug buddy to get the kid out of the house, at any rate the card was not his to use.

My thinking at this point is to try to join the system and get food stamps, might as well get some of my money back.
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Re: Welfare case with a problem, what would U do?

Postby Ouachita » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:46 am

dun wrote:It sure is great that everyone knows all of the circumstances behind things before they start bad mouthing people!


I said she was very attractive. In fact, she was freakin hot, no trophies, no wedding ring, and left out in a 2500HD GMC, 4WD, Crew cab. She just failed to thank me. Is that bad mouthing? :lol:

I think I understand what you're saying dun, and I agree. I am all for a system to help people get through tough times. But it should have never been a Federal system. I've seen many times more abuses of the systems than instances of what we think should happen, actually happen. IMO, the more local the help is, the better. And folks getting the help tend to need less of it, and for shorter durations, when close neighbors, family, friends, and local churches (the people they see every day) are the source of the benevolence.
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Re: Welfare case with a problem, what would U do?

Postby chrisy » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:50 am

Alan wrote:
dun wrote:It sure is great that everyone knows all of the circumstances behind things before they start bad mouthing people!


Just to keep beating on this dead horse, here's what I do know; he wasn't getting potatoes, bread, rice, cheese ect. He was getting candy, chips and pop. He was not buying, he was receiving junk food from taxpayers. The welfare card was not his, I did make the assumption the card was his mothers, I could have been from a friends mothers, moms drug buddy to get the kid out of the house, at any rate the card was not his to use.

My thinking at this point is to try to join the system and get food stamps, might as well get some of my money back.
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why not just feel sorry for the kid that he hasn't had the upbringing and teaching, that you did, and knows no better than to buy junk food, and not the healthy things and woud he know how to cook if he did?, and why think of even stooping down to the level of thinking of getting welfare, think of how lucky you are and have been throughout your life, that you don't have to go down these lines and be a bit charitable of thinking where your money goes in heping out these poor kids. and on the last note...that he hopefully gets out of the gutter and betters himself when gets to adulthood.
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Re: Welfare case with a problem, what would U do?

Postby JSCATTLE » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:24 am

Why feel sorry for the kid ? He's most likely a 4 th generation food stamp welfare person . If you don't make people learn to work they never will .
What Obama should have said: you see this food stamp ? You didn't work for that someone else did !!!
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Re: Welfare case with a problem, what would U do?

Postby Howdyjabo » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:39 am

I like the idea of limiting government help to staples- no one would resent sustenance feeding of anyone then.
No one ever starved with access to beans, salt free peanut butter, salt free meat and vegetable soup, jelly,salt-free crackers, milk, eggs, and orange juice, Granola cereal. And no one would maneuver very hard to scam the system.


I also think that it should be a requirement that they breast feed the babies- if there isn;t a documented reason why they can't(breast pump proves theres milk there and its accessible) . Why should the country feed their babies when they are perfectly capable of doing it themselves.

And yes I have reason to be judgmental-- Thats how I had to live(minus the salt free, but we might as well try and make them healthier :) )
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Re: Welfare case with a problem, what would U do?

Postby I luv herfrds » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:18 pm

Like I said I had my kids on WIC. Both kids were lactose intolerant when they were babies and both quit nursing at 6 months of age. If I gave them whole milk or regular baby formula it all came back up. The WIC head where I went always made me feel terrible because we had to get lactose free milk and formula. She always was saying stuff about how I was feeding my kids.
When I was in the store and buying the WIC milk I always felt embarrased.

It is the people who are not embarrased about buying junk food or other garbage in front of other people that will always be in the system.

Just some info. I know a young white male, he is around 32 years old. Works a job, pays his own rent and lost part of his right leg due to a massive infection; gangrene. No health insurance so he would not go in to have it treated.
An 18 year old girl with a baby living at home with her folks would get assistance before he would. He was out of work for around 2 months while doing rehab. He had to move back in with his folks. There are different people out there who do need a hand up and are not asking for a hand out.
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Re: Welfare case with a problem, what would U do?

Postby 3waycross » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:26 pm

Bigfoot wrote:
Red Bull Breeder wrote:Bigfoot these folk are taking pity on the needy and here you are a bragging about that good stuff you had to eat for a year. be nice i been eating beans and taters all my life.



You know you are right. I'm still eating them to. I guess when it's by choice they taste different.


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Re: Welfare case with a problem, what would U do?

Postby JSCATTLE » Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:18 pm

I luv herfrds wrote:Like I said I had my kids on WIC. Both kids were lactose intolerant when they were babies and both quit nursing at 6 months of age. If I gave them whole milk or regular baby formula it all came back up. The WIC head where I went always made me feel terrible because we had to get lactose free milk and formula. She always was saying stuff about how I was feeding my kids.
When I was in the store and buying the WIC milk I always felt embarrased.

It is the people who are not embarrased about buying junk food or other garbage in front of other people that will always be in the system.

Just some info. I know a young white male, he is around 32 years old. Works a job, pays his own rent and lost part of his right leg due to a massive infection; gangrene. No health insurance so he would not go in to have it treated.
An 18 year old girl with a baby living at home with her folks would get assistance before he would. He was out of work for around 2 months while doing rehab. He had to move back in with his folks. There are different people out there who do need a hand up and are not asking for a hand out.

Our youngest son threw up every feeding fOr the first 4 months of his life . We have medical ins. Wife works at a hospital . Try paying 900 dollars a case for formula that last 2 weeks . It cost me 1800 a month to feed that kid . No help from the government . I worked my regular job and worked weekends running a dozer . I worked 7 days a week for 6 months to feed that kid . If I can do it do can anyone else . I'm not saying don't help the elderly or crippled . We should help those truly in need . I offered a guy a job at the grocery store last week . Everyone in town knows him by name and he begs everyday . I was gonna let him clean some fence . Didn't wanna work but still had the nerve to ask me for money . I started to knock his last tooth out of his head .
What Obama should have said: you see this food stamp ? You didn't work for that someone else did !!!
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