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? to char-angus

Postby jaimefloresh » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:55 pm

What will be the best bull (breed) to bred a charolais-angus cows, i'm looking for heavy calves and good repleasements, no problem whit some ear, tanks
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Re: ? to char-angus

Postby hooknline » Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:41 pm

Brahma
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Re: ? to char-angus

Postby Bigfoot » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:11 pm

Ditto the brahma. Also brangus.
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Re: ? to char-angus

Postby Old_man_emu » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:20 am

I asked a similar question and got belted over the head and told that all the cows should never have been joined and should have been terminals.
My were breed back to angus, only because they are from a registered breeder with those 2 breeds. So far they look fantastic!
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Re: ? to char-angus

Postby Santas and Duhram Reds » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:28 am

Santas, Beefmaster, Brangus. Wouldn't personally do an eared breed where the other breed is a Continental breed.
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Re: ? to char-angus

Postby u4411clb » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:29 am

Ultrablack, Brangus or Chiangus.
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Re: ? to char-angus

Postby ALACOWMAN » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:30 am

using a brahman bull in that mix ,,, the 3 breed rotation is rolling in the opposite direction.....
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Re: ? to char-angus

Postby Santas and Duhram Reds » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:34 am

ALACOWMAN wrote:using a brahman bull in that mix ,,, the 3 breed rotation is rolling in the opposite direction.....

yeah, Brahma usually isn't the finishing touch on a rotation.
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Re: ? to char-angus

Postby sizmic » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:52 pm

Breed em back to Angus.

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Re: ? to char-angus

Postby hooknline » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:02 pm

Santas and Duhram Reds wrote:Santas, Beefmaster, Brangus. Wouldn't personally do an eared breed where the other breed is a Continental breed.

Wouldn't that just water down the hetrosis?
I understand that breeding to brahma wouldn't be the norm, but help me understand how it's going backwards. if you wanted to put some heat tolerance on em without muddying the waters I would think that brahma would be the way to go.
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Re: ? to char-angus

Postby Galloway2 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:04 pm

jaimefloresh wrote:What will be the best bull (breed) to bred a charolais-angus cows, i'm looking for heavy calves and good repleasements, no problem whit some ear, tanks



Breed them to a good black Galloway bull. If you have rough country or altitude, the Galloway cross females will do great. They are just as heat tolerant, if not more, than an Angus.
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Re: ? to char-angus

Postby salebarn junkie » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:51 pm

Are your calves being sold in mexico and if sold there does color matter. If color dosnt matter id say beefmaster
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Re: ? to char-angus

Postby ALACOWMAN » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:35 am

hooknline wrote:
Santas and Duhram Reds wrote:Santas, Beefmaster, Brangus. Wouldn't personally do an eared breed where the other breed is a Continental breed.

Wouldn't that just water down the hetrosis?
I understand that breeding to brahma wouldn't be the norm, but help me understand how it's going backwards. if you wanted to put some heat tolerance on em without muddying the waters I would think that brahma would be the way to go.
well start with the cows that are obviously already working in his enviroment,, but one half is a maternal breed and the other half is used for terminal in a crossbred situation,,, the charolais should be on the tail end of this system.... if he wants heavy calves, but they should be terminal... going with the brahman, will not give him heavy . and only mongrel replacements.... the brahman needs to be in the F1 momas in our enviroment ,,heat, milk, insect's. motherin'
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Re: ? to char-angus

Postby hooknline » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:20 am

Thanks. Makes sense that way
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Re: ? to char-angus

Postby Massey135 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:43 pm

Brangus or Gert with the Gert being my preference as it would inject more heterosis to that mix.

The brahman would supply more heterosis than any on those cows, but a half blood calf won't do well in an sale barn auction setting.
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