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Re: bull picture?

Postby 3waycross » Fri May 25, 2012 9:10 pm

ousoonerfan22 wrote:I have mostly blk angus cross,a few blk baldies,two red cross cows and last october I bought 13 head reg blk angus.I kept three heifers from last year two blk baldies and a angus heifer out of a angus bull that I used to have.I'm looking at keeping four heifers out of this springs calves if they continue growing out good.One is that red baldie heifer sucking on that red cow in the picture.


Brian I apologize if you thought I was calling you a liar. That was not my intention. But something is not right for a bull to come out looking like that from an angus cow and a herf bull. He just looks too much herf to me. I really beliebe that somewhere back a ways something got switched up. I can't explain it but it just doesn't look or smell right.

FOR THE RECORD...that is one dam fine bull. I wish all mine came out that nice.
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Re: bull picture?

Postby ousoonerfan22 » Fri May 25, 2012 9:20 pm

Thanks 3way.
Yes,my uncle was shocked when his supposed to be reg blk angus popped out those red calves and even though he was wanting black baldie replacement heifers he now has just as many red baldie heifers and they're some of the best I've seen.
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Re: bull picture?

Postby 3waycross » Fri May 25, 2012 9:21 pm

ousoonerfan22 wrote:Thanks 3way.
Yes,my uncle was shocked when his supposed to be reg blk angus popped out those red calves and even though he was wanting black baldie replacement heifers he now has just as many red baldie heifers and they're some of the best I've seen.


How many generations had he had those cows. If there was more than one the odds of him having a bunch of red carrier Angus cows is astronomical.

BTW I am curious. Does the red bull ever throw blk calves with red cows?
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Re: bull picture?

Postby VanC » Fri May 25, 2012 9:42 pm

3waycross wrote:
ousoonerfan22 wrote:Thanks 3way.
Yes,my uncle was shocked when his supposed to be reg blk angus popped out those red calves and even though he was wanting black baldie replacement heifers he now has just as many red baldie heifers and they're some of the best I've seen.


How many generations had he had those cows. If there was more than one the odds of him having a bunch of red carrier Angus cows is astronomical.

BTW I am curious. Does the red bull ever throw blk calves with red cows?


That would be impossible.
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Re: bull picture?

Postby ousoonerfan22 » Fri May 25, 2012 9:48 pm

He's had them a number of years and some are behemoths! He culled off some last year because of the lack of grass/drought and some are just too old. He doesn't get that many red calves out of the blk cows. He has or had a blk motface bull out of last years calves that is a stud! He was going to sell him as a bull because he always has told me "some calves deserve to be a bull and not end up at the sale barn then have their nutts cut off".
My bull has only thrown red out of the red cows.
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Re: bull picture?

Postby ousoonerfan22 » Fri May 25, 2012 9:58 pm

ousoonerfan22 wrote:Thanks 3way.
Yes,my uncle was shocked when his supposed to be reg blk angus popped out those red calves and even though he was wanting black baldie replacement heifers he now has just as many red baldie heifers and they're some of the best I've seen.


I came across wrong on this I meant he's picky on keeping heifers and some of the red baldies were kept when at first he was mainly wanting blk baldies.
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Re: bull picture?

Postby Kingfisher » Fri May 25, 2012 9:59 pm

VanC wrote:
3waycross wrote:
ousoonerfan22 wrote:Thanks 3way.
Yes,my uncle was shocked when his supposed to be reg blk angus popped out those red calves and even though he was wanting black baldie replacement heifers he now has just as many red baldie heifers and they're some of the best I've seen.


How many generations had he had those cows. If there was more than one the odds of him having a bunch of red carrier Angus cows is astronomical.

BTW I am curious. Does the red bull ever throw blk calves with red cows?


That would be impossible.


Is that because he ain't really a " red bull?"
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Re: bull picture?

Postby Taurus » Fri May 25, 2012 10:01 pm

Sometimes some crossbreds resembles like a purebred. I have five full belted cows in my herd, yet they are 7/8 Angus.
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Re: bull picture?

Postby Kingfisher » Fri May 25, 2012 10:15 pm

ousoonerfan22 wrote:No,my uncle bought his cattle from a local ranch that has reg black angus and he had angus bulls on them before switching to hereford.I only wanted to start showing pictures of my cattle like others here(I enjoy seeing all of your pictures) and now I'm being called a liar.

Hello. Thanks for your posts. Ain't nobody calling you a " liar" and just cuz some of us smell like bs don't mean any of us are liars...;)
It just seems really odd or some sort of freak that your bull looks like it does from the cows you claim. Hang in here and help us all
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Re: bull picture?

Postby Gators Rule » Fri May 25, 2012 11:56 pm

my "guess" is that he and some other calf were "switched" at birth by their dams...
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Re: bull picture?

Postby ANAZAZI » Sat May 26, 2012 12:08 am

Taurus wrote:Sometimes some crossbreds resembles like a purebred. I have five full belted cows in my herd, yet they are 7/8 Angus.


The white legs and most of the white markings of hereford character are recessive traits, and the dominant white head is usually the only marking that shows up in a baldie, where the white usually is much smaller than on the hereford head.
The belt is a dominant trait, it stays on some of the calves whatever you breed to.
It was first introduced into the galloway breed with only four individuals from a ship. That is now five hundred years ago...
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Re: bull picture?

Postby plumber_greg » Sat May 26, 2012 5:48 am

3waycross wrote:
ousoonerfan22 wrote:I have mostly blk angus cross,a few blk baldies,two red cross cows and last october I bought 13 head reg blk angus.I kept three heifers from last year two blk baldies and a angus heifer out of a angus bull that I used to have.I'm looking at keeping four heifers out of this springs calves if they continue growing out good.One is that red baldie heifer sucking on that red cow in the picture.


Brian I apologize if you thought I was calling you a liar. That was not my intention. But something is not right for a bull to come out looking like that from an angus cow and a herf bull. He just looks too much herf to me. I really beliebe that somewhere back a ways something got switched up. I can't explain it but it just doesn't look or smell right.

FOR THE RECORD...that is one dam fine bull. I wish all mine came out that nice.

Brian, I'm sorry if I started something. I was just courious if you knew for sure that it was a reg black angus. Vic is right, something is just not quite right it seems. The bull should be black, and it's one he77 of a looking bull to have anything angus in it. Sorry if I offended you in any way, wait till I post pics of my cattle, now that's some animals to poke fun at. All black and all welfare cattle subsidyed by a plumbing account. Greg
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Re: bull picture?

Postby Taurus » Sat May 26, 2012 11:07 am

ANAZAZI wrote:
Taurus wrote:Sometimes some crossbreds resembles like a purebred. I have five full belted cows in my herd, yet they are 7/8 Angus.


The white legs and most of the white markings of hereford character are recessive traits, and the dominant white head is usually the only marking that shows up in a baldie, where the white usually is much smaller than on the hereford head.
The belt is a dominant trait, it stays on some of the calves whatever you breed to.
It was first introduced into the galloway breed with only four individuals from a ship. That is now five hundred years ago...

Yes the belt is a dominant trait but this year we have no belted calves born despite of have 6 beltie cross cows and last year we only have one half belted calf. They were bred to a black angus bull.

I never knew that white legs and other markings were recessive but I have see them lots on black baldies. But then again these black baldies were not F1 crossbreds. I think you are right, the dam must be not "purebred" black angus.
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