Individual tastes/Differences of opinion

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Re: Individual tastes/Differences of opinion

Post by wstevenl » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:42 am

I think you all are getting pretty bent out of shape about nothing.
First Doc, this was (as far as I can tell) not Government Subsidized so it's not just another liberal way to waste money and time.
Also the article starts with this "The mission of the event was to make a flavor comparison of beef from these ten breeds to demonstrate the culinary diversity they represent, as well as the value of conserving rare breeds." They weren't trying to find the BEST BEEF they were trying to show the vast variation in flavor and texture in order to encourage farmers and others to preserve these old bloodlines.

If I had this big idea to do a taste testing as a publicity stunt to help rare breeds and I was able to get 8 rare breeds of beef together with 70 chefs/etc. I'd be pretty danged proud of the accomplishment. I'd say that this was WAY WAY more well done than some room full of idiots off the street on fox news being polled during a debate about which pres. cand. they like better. Now that is some data that has no meaning!


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Re: Individual tastes/Differences of opinion

Post by backhoeboogie » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:38 pm

Funny that if it was skewed the other way, some folks complaining might be jumping on the bandwagon of this survey.

I see all these media polls and surveys such as this one and wonder not only about the motive (why would someone do this in the first place) but also about the political influence.

I know what I like to eat. I hate tomatoes and cantaloupe. I am sure some one in this forum likes them. So who is right and who is wrong? Do all the polls and surveys about tomato varieties you'd like and I am still not going to eat any. So if you are trying to get me to buy brand X tomatoes, you are wasting your nickels.

If they are going to try and get me to switch breeds, it is more nickels being wasted. I hope tax payers didn't pay for this again.
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Re: Individual tastes/Differences of opinion

Post by ALACOWMAN » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:56 pm

is angus on that endangered species list.. :P
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Re: Individual tastes/Differences of opinion

Post by EAT BEEF » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:58 pm

ALACOWMAN wrote:is angus on that endangered species list.. :P


Good ones are.
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Re: Individual tastes/Differences of opinion

Post by ALACOWMAN » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:00 pm

EAT BEEF wrote:
ALACOWMAN wrote:is angus on that endangered species list.. :P


Good ones are.
;-) i new that was coming
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Re: Individual tastes/Differences of opinion

Post by Busterz » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:33 pm

I think people are a little off base in how they are interpreting this event (maybe it was the way the reporter wrote the article...another tangent which could be explored in the demise or american politics and culture).

I don't think it was meant to find the best tasting beef. In fact that would undermine their real purpose in the event. It appears they were trying to show that different breeds (especially heritage breeds ) can have different flavors. By doing that they can create niches for those breeds. Its something other industries do and I've wondered why the beef industry doesn't do a little more of it. How many kinds of coffee can you buy these days or wine? Different varieties of these are prefered by different people. Wine in particular is distinguished by variety and location. French use the term "terrior" for wine from a certain area have a distinctive flavor from wine grown in other areas.

I'd like to see a "test" or some kind that simply compares the flavors and differences of beef raised in different parts of the country and finished on different feeds to see how distinctive beef can be. I think there could be some real differences that could be capitalized on with a little bit of marketing.

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Re: Individual tastes/Differences of opinion

Post by wstevenl » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:39 pm

They probably will be some day when black isn't "cool" anymore. When I was looking for Dexters to buy, a friend asked what color they were and said, well I hope you can get some black ones cause "I hear that black stock is better".

A cousin that runs 400 registered angus and herefords said he thinks that in the next 10 years there will be almost nothing but black.... mostly angus cattle in America. The same way most dairies are Holsteins. I hope little "for fun" taste tests like this can help out in preserving some of the older breeds.
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Re: Individual tastes/Differences of opinion

Post by ALACOWMAN » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:45 pm

wstevenl wrote:They probably will be some day when black isn't "cool" anymore. When I was looking for Dexters to buy, a friend asked what color they were and said, well I hope you can get some black ones cause "I hear that black stock is better".

A cousin that runs 400 registered angus and herefords said he thinks that in the next 10 years there will be almost nothing but black.... mostly angus cattle in America. The same way most dairies are Holsteins. I hope little "for fun" taste tests like this can help out in preserving some of the older breeds.
as long as there's hobby farmers they will have a home
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Re: Individual tastes/Differences of opinion

Post by wstevenl » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:56 pm

Hobby farmers....... OUch
I'm guessing that you're one of those that think that someone that sells meat off the farm is a hobby farmer, and those that sell steers to the feed lots are the real farmers/ranchers?
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Re: Individual tastes/Differences of opinion

Post by ALACOWMAN » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:02 pm

wstevenl wrote:Hobby farmers....... OUch
I'm guessing that you're one of those that think that someone that sells meat off the farm is a hobby farmer, and those that sell steers to the feed lots are the real farmers/ranchers?
well uh.....i uh...hmmm this is awkward....yes
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Re: Individual tastes/Differences of opinion

Post by wstevenl » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:13 pm

I went back and read some of your past posts and can already tell, I better keep my mouth shut if I don't want to get into an argument.

Why do some people have to be jerks?
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Re: Individual tastes/Differences of opinion

Post by ALACOWMAN » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:16 pm

wstevenl wrote:I went back and read some of your past posts and can already tell, I better keep my mouth shut if I don't want to get into an argument.

Why do some people have to be jerks?
why do some people get their drawers in a wad when you say hobby farmer.. it aint crime to be one, or disgrace. heck im one myself . take it easy
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Re: Individual tastes/Differences of opinion

Post by 3waycross » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:20 pm

Probably cuz most of the time it's used in a derogatory fashion.

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Re: Individual tastes/Differences of opinion

Post by ALACOWMAN » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:27 pm

3waycross wrote:Probably cuz most of the time it's used in a derogatory fashion.

Never seen anyone like being refered to as a red headed stepchild at a family reunion.
maybe but there aint a whole lot of ways to say it... redhead stepchild on the other hand might need some deplomacy ;-)
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Re: Individual tastes/Differences of opinion

Post by wstevenl » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:44 pm

So is it the making money part that makes you a farmer (I agree with that). Or is it the enjoying it part that makes you a "hobby farmer"? The way I look at it, I'm a "hobby rancher" with my horses because they don't even begin to make money but in time I hope to be a farmer.... selling food to customers, and making money. I also want to enjoy it. If I'm making money at it, I sure wouldn't want to be called a hobby farmer but I'll most likely not be raising the same thing that they feed lot owners are asking for.
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