Brahma cross bull prospect

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Brahma cross bull prospect

Post by MurraysMutts » Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:08 am

What ya'll think? His mama looks mostly brahma to me. Unknown sire.
The little bull is growing like wildfire, yet wasnt a huge baby. Less than 80 lbs by me calibrated eyeball.
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Crossbred for high bread vinegar....

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Re: Brahma cross bull prospect

Post by ALACOWMAN » Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:24 pm

He's a decent looking calf,but don't think he'll make a herd bull...
as an adult,it's clear to me now...why Ernest T Bass, threw rocks at people..

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Re: Brahma cross bull prospect

Post by Caustic Burno » Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:54 pm

Make a good number on a sale barn receipt. Hard to make back forty cattle pencil out in today’s market.
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Re: Brahma cross bull prospect

Post by MurraysMutts » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:00 pm

O the pencil is dang sharp, that's fer sure.
Agree on the back forty cattle.
I got lots of Mutts. No shame in that.
Gonna keep my eyes on him tho. If his babies grow like him itll make the pencil even sharper!
Hahaha
But seriously. Not even a good back forty bull for my Mutts?
I know a good bull will cover alot up on poor cattle.
Uniformity sells...
Buts that's my long game.
If all else fails I bet he tastes good!
Crossbred for high bread vinegar....

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Re: Brahma cross bull prospect

Post by Brute 23 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:20 am

It's really risky using crossbred bulls. A good bull is one of the the best investments you can make in your operation, especially if you plan to retain heifers.
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Re: Brahma cross bull prospect

Post by ALACOWMAN » Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:11 am

MurraysMutts wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:00 pm
O the pencil is dang sharp, that's fer sure.
Agree on the back forty cattle.
I got lots of Mutts. No shame in that.
Gonna keep my eyes on him tho. If his babies grow like him itll make the pencil even sharper!
Hahaha
But seriously. Not even a good back forty bull for my Mutts?
I know a good bull will cover alot up on poor cattle.
Uniformity sells...
Buts that's my long game.
If all else fails I bet he tastes good!
the growth comes from the F1s heterosis that's bred in ""him"" ...don't be disappointed if he don't pass it on..seen this happen ""way""to many times..
as an adult,it's clear to me now...why Ernest T Bass, threw rocks at people..

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Re: Brahma cross bull prospect

Post by MurraysMutts » Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:14 am

Thank you!
The crossbred doesnt bother me as much as the fact I dont know anything about the sire.
I did invest in a registered Hereford for the home place. Gonna make some baldies if all goes right. Home cows are all commercial black mamas.

I've had terrible luck with bulls this year. One died. One disappeared.
My thoughts are, if hes raised here, maybe he will stay put! I do like the way he is coming along tho.

And I just contradicted myself in the first sentence didnt i?
Crossbred for high bread vinegar....

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Re: Brahma cross bull prospect

Post by ALACOWMAN » Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:42 am

Remember, and you'll see, just like I have ..Mistakes in the cattle business takes precious years to recover from..unless you got the long money to makeit all go away...
as an adult,it's clear to me now...why Ernest T Bass, threw rocks at people..

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Re: Brahma cross bull prospect

Post by bird dog » Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:54 am

With a cross bred bull your calf uniformity theoretically goes down as half the calves will get part of the cross while the others get the other half. If you are not selling in groups, I guess it doesn't matter. Some will have a lot of ear, some will not have any.

Not knowing the sire is also an issue as you want really know if he is bringing any desirable traits to your herd. I would cut him and buy a purebred animal with the traits you are looking for.

Now after saying all that, a good registered Brangus bull is a good choice over a group of Herefords. I have a few Brangus baldies and they are some of the best mama cows in the herd.

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Re: Brahma cross bull prospect

Post by slick4591 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:57 am

I also have issues with your words of "Uniformity sells..." and crossbred bull. I just don't think you'll end up with what you are looking for.
I wish my brain could forget what my eyes have seen.

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Re: Brahma cross bull prospect

Post by Caustic Burno » Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:13 am

slick4591 wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:57 am
I also have issues with your words of "Uniformity sells..." and crossbred bull. I just don't think you'll end up with what you are looking for.
Looking more like a box of crayons,
some short and stubby others long and all different colors.
You can’t starve profit in a cow or shortchange the genetics to get a better bovine to mash the scales.
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Re: Brahma cross bull prospect

Post by ALACOWMAN » Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:57 am

Best way I found to get uniformity over a group of commercial mutts., is put a good linebred bull on em...cleans the calves up quick,and gives you something to work with..
as an adult,it's clear to me now...why Ernest T Bass, threw rocks at people..

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Re: Brahma cross bull prospect

Post by MurraysMutts » Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:52 am

It sounds like what I need to do is steer him and sell him when the time comes.
My long term goal is to sell 2 groups a year.
Spring and fall.
From what I've seen at sales, the groups of fairly uniform calves, bring the best per pound.
Some singles bring good money.
Some not so much.
Probly depends entirely on who's at the sale that day.

This thread also helps me with my charolais question btw.
I've been thinking about selling my one jewel bull and my char bull to buy a nice angus or brangus to put on my crayons. As long as the new one stays put and dont die on me all will be well.
Crossbred for high bread vinegar....

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Re: Brahma cross bull prospect

Post by MurraysMutts » Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:10 am

You can’t starve profit in a cow or shortchange the genetics to get a better bovine to mash the scales.


I'm a firm believer in both of those beliefs!
I enjoy feeding my animals. I've heard of people who say, "shes gotta earn her keep" and not give em anything to eat. Well a cow can only work with what its given. Especially when it's a domesticated animal kept inside a fence. You become the provider!

My goal with these girls was to purchase animals that were proven producers. They put a calf on the ground and paid for themselves. I've attained that goal so far.
Now it's on to the next calf crop and I want to make em as good as I can with the available resources.
Crossbred for high bread vinegar....

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Re: Brahma cross bull prospect

Post by ALACOWMAN » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:37 pm

You can constantly improve your herd with the right Bulls ...
as an adult,it's clear to me now...why Ernest T Bass, threw rocks at people..

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