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AAA EPD’s NOT reporting progeny ?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:12 am
by Richnm
Noticed one of my cows is not showing progeny. She has had several calves reported by her previous owner and by myself. I called AAA and they could not figure out what the issue is. It’s been two weeks and they haven’t called me back or fixed it. Anyone have any ideas ? Her reg# is 14845281

Re: AAA EPD’s NOT reporting progeny ?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:27 am
by Luckiamute
Richnm wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:12 am
Noticed one of my cows is not showing progeny. She has had several calves reported by her previous owner and by myself. I called AAA and they could not figure out what the issue is. It’s been two weeks and they haven’t called me back or fixed it. Anyone have any ideas ? Her reg# is 14845281
I don't have an answer for you, but I have a couple of cows that are in similar situations. One cow has had seven calves, all of which I registered, but her AAA registration only shows four progeny. Another cow, a 9-year-old, is missing two of her progeny on her registration. Don't know what's up, but I've wondered why they aren't all represented.

Re: AAA EPD’s NOT reporting progeny ?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:33 am
by Bright Raven
Richnm wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:12 am
Noticed one of my cows is not showing progeny. She has had several calves reported by her previous owner and by myself. I called AAA and they could not figure out what the issue is. It’s been two weeks and they haven’t called me back or fixed it. Anyone have any ideas ? Her reg# is 14845281
Rich

Call them. I am in the American Simmental Association. I have my herd enrolled in THE (Total Herd Enrollment). To be in compliance, you have to enter the progeny. When I submit birthweights, calving ease, sires, etc. I sometimes look at my herd book and see a glitch. I call the Association. They have been amazing in determining the error. It is usually forgetting to request registration in the box that just requires a "Y". Or something of that nature. When the glitch is fixed, my herd book corrects.

Re: AAA EPD’s NOT reporting progeny ?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:52 am
by Richnm
They finally called me back. The previous owner had calves set up in contemporary groups by themselves , this prevented the data from reporting all these years. They said they fixed it. It should update today.

Re: AAA EPD’s NOT reporting progeny ?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:54 am
by Bright Raven
Richnm wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:52 am
They finally called me back. The previous owner had calves set up in contemporary groups by themselves , this prevented the data from reporting all these years. They said they fixed it. It should update today.
I might just be having good luck but I have called ASA a bunch of times, I have always gotten through to a live staff member and in every case they have been very competent.

Re: AAA EPD’s NOT reporting progeny ?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:59 am
by Richnm
While I had them on the line I asked about dna testing and if the dna test can determine the breed of the animal. They said no. Which makes me believe that a some breeders have crossed breeds to impact epds (hybrid vigor).

Re: AAA EPD’s NOT reporting progeny ?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:51 am
by sim.-ang.king
Richnm wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:59 am
While I had them on the line I asked about dna testing and if the dna test can determine the breed of the animal. They said no. Which makes me believe that a some breeders have crossed breeds to impact epds (hybrid vigor).
I have always heard that it can't, but you would think with AAA superior record keeping and large collection of DNA samples, they could figure it out.

Re: AAA EPD’s NOT reporting progeny ?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:26 pm
by Caustic Burno
Richnm wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:59 am
While I had them on the line I asked about dna testing and if the dna test can determine the breed of the animal. They said no. Which makes me believe that a some breeders have crossed breeds to impact epds (hybrid vigor).
Those 800 lb Angus bulls of the 70’s didn’t get to a ton overnight without some help. Be like some of those green papered Herefords that got eye pigment overnight pushing 3k lbs.