Low line angus

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Low line angus

Post by DCA farm » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:45 pm

Seen some low line angus cows selling pretty cheap what’s the deal with them other than being smaller cattle how do they cross with say a regular black angus



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Re: Low line angus

Post by DCA farm » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:47 pm

Or Brahman bulls These particular cows where running with Brahman bull

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Re: Low line angus

Post by ALACOWMAN » Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:05 pm

The cattle market drives the prices on all breeds ...get outside of the common breeds,you got to build your own market.. for the so called niche breeds....the buyers don't want them ,because they won't finish in the same timeframe as the rest..they could even be better beef..but they can't shut down production for one, or a handful of mismatched ..I like the lowlines .....but I'd keep looking, its a buyers market right now..
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Re: Low line angus

Post by farmerjan » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:39 pm

Have had a couple of what I called lowlines over the years. Maybe they were "stunted" black angus, but they were a bit smaller; SHORTER definitely, and the vet just looked at me when I got this last one and said are you serious? I used a normal black angus bull on them and got satisfactory calves that grew well. This last one weaned calves off that were nearly as tall as her at 7 months old. Weighed right in with the rest. I have kept several of her heifers because I liked the way they are built. She had some age and finally came up open and I shipped her. Have 2 daughters, 1 granddaughter in the herd, and a young heifer.
If you do alot of research on the "lowlines" you will see that they were developed from smaller angus and then linebred to develop them further. They are not a true miniature like some of the "mini" breeds, and do not have as many breeding problems as true mini breeds.
I have no experience with them being crossed with a brahma bull. But I wouldn't hesitate to buy some more around here, if they were cheap enough, breed them to our angus and raise calves on them. They will eat less than a full size angus, mine kept their weight well, and I didn't see where the calves were that terribly "smaller".

The old "true angus" that was being shown in the 50's were short legged, squat blocky things barely up to a man's belt....
My grandfather said that long legs only meant they had to reach further down to get the grass and you can't eat the legs... he was talking about the leg below the knee or hock.

Alacowman is right though, it is a buyers market right now, so there are decent bargains to be found if you are looking for cows. We are seeing them for little more than cull cow pound price here. I think that will hold at least through to the first of the year. Some will depend on the winter, and the water/drought situation, and some on this "movement" to get the packers from being able to continually rip off the producers..... We will see.
Slaughter numbers on heifers are up so not as many retained as replacements, so many were lost in the flooding in the plains states so subsequent loss of calves and replacement heifers from them too. Farmers/ranchers are going out as we all age, and the younger generation is crazy to take over farms in areas where they CAN NOT make a living.
We have cut back for several reasons, but one is dealing with owners on rents, and poor fences and them thinking we are going to do all this work to give them tax breaks on their land, and they still want way too much for the rent; plus some places being sold out. Some of us are tired of not being able to just pay the bills off the cows, keeping "regular" jobs to do that. We just want them to not cost us money..... not make a big profit, but to pay their own way and the rents and such.

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Re: Low line angus

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:07 pm

Lowline"s have changed their name. They are now the American Aberdeen Association. (AAA). I would think AAA would be a little disturbed with this new name.
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Re: Low line angus

Post by farmerjan » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:41 pm

Since "lowlines" were originally "made" in Australia, it would seem to me that they ought to be "Australian Aberdeen Angus". I can not quite get where they got the "American AA from since the american angus were the ones that were bred "up" to be so big and tall. I can remember having to stand on a milk crate to breed some AI when I was doing relief work for Select Sires in the 80's.... they were more like "Chianina's" and some had that disposition too. So it is really an "oxymoron" to call them "American Aberdeen Angus". Every one knows what lowlines were/are..... the other is confusing.

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Re: Low line angus

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:21 am

Confusing?? most definitely.
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Re: Low line angus

Post by Son of Butch » Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:20 am

farmerjan wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:41 pm
Every one knows what lowlines were/are..... the other is confusing.
Confusion is the intent....
Makes it a lot easier to market/promote American Aberdeen Angus than Lowlines.

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Re: Low line angus

Post by ALACOWMAN » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:46 pm

I think linking the name Angus to it , makes its a little less confusing.,,and more attractive...unlike saying"" the American hump backed long eared Brahman association .. :cowboy:
as an adult,it's clear to me now...why Ernest T Bass, threw rocks at people..

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Re: Low line angus

Post by Silver » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:57 pm

I don't see where there is Angus in the name at all... :???:

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Re: Low line angus

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:54 pm

Son of Butch wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:20 am
farmerjan wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:41 pm
Every one knows what lowlines were/are..... the other is confusing.
Confusion is the intent....
Makes it a lot easier to market/promote American Aberdeen Angus than Lowlines.

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American Aberdeen Association (no Angus in their "official" name) but, they are AAA
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Re: Low line angus

Post by ALACOWMAN » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:27 pm

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:54 pm
Son of Butch wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:20 am
farmerjan wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:41 pm
Every one knows what lowlines were/are..... the other is confusing.
Confusion is the intent....
Makes it a lot easier to market/promote American Aberdeen Angus than Lowlines.

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American Aberdeen Association (no Angus in their "official" name) but, they are AAA
That's true,,but folks associate the name Aberdeen with Angus..whether it's in there or not..its all perception,which is what their probably riding on..lowline is not a flattering term..
as an adult,it's clear to me now...why Ernest T Bass, threw rocks at people..

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Re: Low line angus

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:31 pm

Absolutely!!!!
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