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Re: Zeus

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:52 pm

Mudman might have deleted it himself.


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Re: Zeus

Post by Nesikep » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:33 am

southernultrablack wrote:
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Stout calf! How much Gelbvieh is in there?
Both parents are 1/2 GV, Sire's side has some shorthorn, Dam's side has Salers
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Re: Zeus

Post by cotton1 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:08 pm

Looks good to me Nesi. I read some comments about his hind being taller than his front, that just means he is growing right now to me. I'm glad you are keeping with your in house blood lines and who knows, maybe Zues will be you next herd bull.

Also, I love the mountains in the pictures around your farm..beautiful!

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Re: Zeus

Post by Nesikep » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:26 am

cotton1 wrote:
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Looks good to me Nesi. I read some comments about his hind being taller than his front, that just means he is growing right now to me. I'm glad you are keeping with your in house blood lines and who knows, maybe Zues will be you next herd bull.

Also, I love the mountains in the pictures around your farm..beautiful!
Just for some comparison, Here's his Limo sired steer brother, pretty close to the same age (touch older)
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Not the most flattering pics, but Hector when he was younger, probably about 3 months old
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Got his winter clothing on here.
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Re: Zeus

Post by Boot Jack Bulls » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:11 pm

I just see that calf as far too terminal in his make-up. There's a lot I really like about him, his length, bone, heavy muscle and masculinity, not to mention a knock out dam. But for me, he's a bit to round in his hip (and thus a touch straight in his hocks) and the lack of depth of fore rib is an absolute no-go. I have learned the very expensive and hard way that you simply cannot feed that capacious rib into one, be it cow, bull or steer. The fact is, he would not make my prospect pen here, but to each his own.

I do find it interesting that most of your cows, especially older generations, have very desirable depth and spring of rib. I suspect the recent calf crops you have posted have been the result of a bull with a similar tubular shape???
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Re: Zeus

Post by Nesikep » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:57 pm

Boot Jack Bulls wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:11 pm
I just see that calf as far too terminal in his make-up. There's a lot I really like about him, his length, bone, heavy muscle and masculinity, not to mention a knock out dam. But for me, he's a bit to round in his hip (and thus a touch straight in his hocks) and the lack of depth of fore rib is an absolute no-go. I have learned the very expensive and hard way that you simply cannot feed that capacious rib into one, be it cow, bull or steer. The fact is, he would not make my prospect pen here, but to each his own.

I do find it interesting that most of your cows, especially older generations, have very desirable depth and spring of rib. I suspect the recent calf crops you have posted have been the result of a bull with a similar tubular shape???
Except for the old roan Shorthorns, the calves are closely related to the mothers on their sire's side.. if that makes sense... The calves have the same grandsire on both sides of the family (The one in my profile pic)..

I have a few Limo sired cows as well, but I'm kinda disappointed in their longevity and find them hard doers.. 2 of them slipped their calves, 1 prolapsed, and I have a couple others that just look like tall, skinny racks and are eyesores, especially if they're under 4 years old... I'm thinking of letting them cull themselves out and I am a bit reluctant to keep heifers, though perhaps 1/4 influence wouldn't be too bad
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Re: Zeus

Post by Nesikep » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:15 pm

170 days old
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Re: Zeus

Post by NonTypicalCPA » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:48 pm

Big boy!!

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Re: Zeus

Post by Redgully » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:58 am

Love the width, something i am trying to achieve here.

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Re: Zeus

Post by Nesikep » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:56 am

Redgully wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:58 am
Love the width, something i am trying to achieve here.
I'm trying to get a bit deeper chests.. I have the width I want in most of the calves now

Here's "the gang", Pookie, Dusty, and Zeus, one in the back I do like but that family is horrid on my fences.. Don't want bad habits
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Re: Zeus

Post by Bright Raven » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:09 am

Nesikep wrote:
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170 days old
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Fantastic. That might be your best?
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Re: Zeus

Post by Nesikep » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:11 am

He's certainly one of the biggest calves for his age that I've ever had, especially from a moderate sized momma (1400 lbs?)
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Re: Zeus

Post by elkwc » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:18 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:09 am
Nesikep wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:15 pm
170 days old
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Fantastic. That might be your best?
Really like this calf. Like his width, bone and base width.
For me it is too early too tell but I have some question about the amount of gut he will have. I like nuts, butts and guts. Regardless at this point a good prospect that deserves the chance to develop.

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Re: Zeus

Post by elkwc » Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:26 pm

Nesikep wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:56 am
Redgully wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:58 am
Love the width, something i am trying to achieve here.
I'm trying to get a bit deeper chests.. I have the width I want in most of the calves now

Here's "the gang", Pookie, Dusty, and Zeus, one in the back I do like but that family is horrid on my fences.. Don't want bad habits
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I'm trying to do the same with ours along with adding some volume and spring of rib.

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Re: Zeus

Post by Nesikep » Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:46 pm

elkwc wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:26 pm

I'm trying to do the same with ours along with adding some volume and spring of rib.
I'm not really sure what breed or bulls in particular I'm going to get to accomplish that yet.. I would like to get a Salers influenced animal in again, but that won't be helping with depth... Perhaps another Shorthorn?

I saw this cow (She's a Muridale Shorthorn).. She's a beauty
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