Easyy Calving Double Muscling = DM Zebu

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Easyy Calving Double Muscling = DM Zebu

Post by gaurus » Wed May 29, 2019 1:44 pm

Double Muscling Nelore(Zebu foundation of Brahman cattle) Heifers from Brazil


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Re: Easyy Calving Double Muscling = DM Zebu

Post by Caustic Burno » Wed May 29, 2019 2:15 pm

Messed up cattle IMO.
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Re: Easyy Calving Double Muscling = DM Zebu

Post by Muddy » Wed May 29, 2019 2:29 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 2:15 pm
Messed up cattle IMO.
How so? These ones doesn't look like extremely DM to me. Very similar to Piedmontese more than European Belgian Blues. That said they should just imported Boran cattle to Brazil.

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Re: Easyy Calving Double Muscling = DM Zebu

Post by ALACOWMAN » Wed May 29, 2019 4:07 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 2:15 pm
Messed up cattle IMO.
twice the muscle,,jump twice as high.. :cowboy: don't see any reason for ""more" lean muscle on Brahman...looks like they could be the hard keeping type..
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Re: Easyy Calving Double Muscling = DM Zebu

Post by ALACOWMAN » Wed May 29, 2019 4:20 pm

Now these on the other hand..
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Re: Easyy Calving Double Muscling = DM Zebu

Post by Caustic Burno » Wed May 29, 2019 4:33 pm

ALACOWMAN wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 4:20 pm
Now these on the other hand..
Sweet!
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Re: Easyy Calving Double Muscling = DM Zebu

Post by Muddy » Wed May 29, 2019 7:19 pm

ALACOWMAN wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 4:07 pm
Caustic Burno wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 2:15 pm
Messed up cattle IMO.
twice the muscle,,jump twice as high.. :cowboy: don't see any reason for ""more" lean muscle on Brahman...looks like they could be the hard keeping type..
At least they're putting more beef in these sorry-lookin nelores in Brazil.

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Re: Easyy Calving Double Muscling = DM Zebu

Post by gaurus » Thu May 30, 2019 8:42 am

Muddy wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 2:29 pm
These ones doesn't look like extremely DM to me. Very similar to Piedmontese more than European Belgian Blues. That said they should just imported Boran cattle to Brazil.
True, I would also go on to say that they should produce very tender beef(due to DM)

So basically a Brahman with very tender beef(due to DB), with easy calving. it's a win win situation here.

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Re: Easyy Calving Double Muscling = DM Zebu

Post by Muddy » Thu May 30, 2019 10:46 am

Gaurus, just because the animal is a DM, doesn't mean it will produce tender beef as there are different types of double muscle. Some Belgian Blues can be tough and parthenaise cattle are known for that, hence why they didn't take off in United States like Piedmontese did. American Blues have improved in tenderness from breeding-up programs.

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Re: Easyy Calving Double Muscling = DM Zebu

Post by lithuanian farmer » Fri May 31, 2019 3:16 am

The myostatin mutation in Belgian blues doesn't add easy calving, so it's very brave to state that this cross going to be easy calved. Blues can be very very hard calved. If there is even a small% of BB in a cow, she can throw a big muscled calf anytime and have difficulties at calving...

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Re: Easyy Calving Double Muscling = DM Zebu

Post by gaurus » Fri May 31, 2019 8:49 am

lithuanian farmer wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 3:16 am
The myostatin mutation in Belgian blues doesn't add easy calving, so it's very brave to state that this cross going to be easy calved. Blues can be very very hard calved. If there is even a small% of BB in a cow, she can throw a big muscled calf anytime and have difficulties at calving...
Brahman/Zebu cows don't have issues with calving.

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Re: Easyy Calving Double Muscling = DM Zebu

Post by Muddy » Fri May 31, 2019 9:37 am

gaurus wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 8:49 am
lithuanian farmer wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 3:16 am
The myostatin mutation in Belgian blues doesn't add easy calving, so it's very brave to state that this cross going to be easy calved. Blues can be very very hard calved. If there is even a small% of BB in a cow, she can throw a big muscled calf anytime and have difficulties at calving...
Brahman/Zebu cows don't have issues with calving.
No but Double muscled females can have issues with calving, even if the calves are only 100lbs.

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Re: Easyy Calving Double Muscling = DM Zebu

Post by lithuanian farmer » Fri May 31, 2019 9:40 am

gaurus wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 8:49 am
lithuanian farmer wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 3:16 am
The myostatin mutation in Belgian blues doesn't add easy calving, so it's very brave to state that this cross going to be easy calved. Blues can be very very hard calved. If there is even a small% of BB in a cow, she can throw a big muscled calf anytime and have difficulties at calving...
Brahman/Zebu cows don't have issues with calving.
But these were crossed with Belgian blues to get that double muscling. If these have the same mutation as Belgian blues, then there will appear some calving problems sooner or later.

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