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Post by dbirdsong » Tue May 28, 2019 9:15 pm

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Critique this bull. He is a three year old son of Harvester out of a Density cow. He had solid epds until I did DNA test and they plummeted. His calves are holding their own but the main reason I bought him was because I wanted some replacement females out of him.



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Re: Blast away

Post by southernultrablack » Tue May 28, 2019 9:45 pm

Looks pretty good to me!

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Re: Blast away

Post by Nesikep » Wed May 29, 2019 1:52 am

Nothing to be ashamed of there! sure got length to him.
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Re: Blast away

Post by wbvs58 » Wed May 29, 2019 4:01 am

dbirdsong wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 9:15 pm
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Critique this bull. He is a three year old son of Harvester out of a Density cow. He had solid epds until I did DNA test and they plummeted. His calves are holding their own but the main reason I bought him was because I wanted some replacement females out of him.
Can you post his EPD's, before and after would be good so we can see what is concerning you. I do believe in EPD's but I don't stress over them, the actual performance of their calves is what I take note of.

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Post by Ky hills » Wed May 29, 2019 9:21 am

Looks good to me me he has length and volume. That’s what frustrates me about EPD’s although usually ours haven’t changed much after DNA. I can think back to a couple very noticeable changes though.
I have heard some very good things about daughters of Density. I personally have seen a pattern of disposition issues from calves by the sire of Density, 004 that I don’t like. Hopefully that will be far enough down the line from your calves that it won’t be an issue.

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Re: Blast away

Post by dbirdsong » Wed May 29, 2019 9:49 am

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I don’t remember them before DNA except the WW was in the high 50s and YW was a little over 100. I’ll post a picture of his pedigree also.

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Re: Blast away

Post by dbirdsong » Wed May 29, 2019 9:51 am

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Post by dbirdsong » Wed May 29, 2019 10:47 am

Based on his calves performance I’m thinking he’s more like breed average for growth. The best heifer I kept last year was one of his daughters. I still am not a believer in genomics yet. My two lightest calves this year have my best genomics test.

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Re: Blast away

Post by dbirdsong » Wed May 29, 2019 11:50 am

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One of these guys might be replacing him soon.

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Post by wbvs58 » Wed May 29, 2019 8:09 pm

Whenever I send any away for genomics I always print out their current numbers to compare after genomics. He does seem to have suffered a hit based on what you have said from WW and YW. I have read of other SAV bulls EPD's falling after genomics. I believe that since SAV don't do genomics their EPD's have drifted away from what the genomics say. I would think in that case the original EPD's would be a result of actual recording of data so would have faith in the original EPD's.

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Re: Blast away

Post by Son of Butch » Thu May 30, 2019 12:10 am

dbirdsong wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 9:15 pm
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the main reason I bought him was because I wanted some replacement females out of him.
Appears to me you made a good choice to achieve your main reason... replacement females.

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Re: Blast away

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Thu May 30, 2019 6:31 am

I think you have a very nice bull.
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Re: Blast away

Post by dbirdsong » Thu May 30, 2019 7:20 am

Thanks for the input and kind words.

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Re: Blast away

Post by Son of Butch » Thu May 30, 2019 8:57 am

dbirdsong wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 11:50 am
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One of these guys might be replacing him soon.
Judging a young bull from a picture is always risky.
IMO
This one is definitely going to sire more stature than your current bull.
He appears to me to be calving ease, marbling, more milk with nice chest extension.
Other photo is harder to judge.

Care to share info on the two?

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Re: Blast away

Post by cow pollinater » Thu May 30, 2019 9:04 am

It's hard to say from pictures but I think I like your current bull better than the calves. Your bull looks to be really good from what I can tell.

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