Hoss squared

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Hoss squared

Post by Brookhill Angus » Sun May 12, 2019 1:27 pm

This was definitely a nice Mother's day surprise.

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The video below was shot minutes after he was born. He weighed 103 pounds, she popped him out with no issues at all. The dam was over 2000 pounds 3 months ago, so I figure she was about 2100-2150 when she gave birth. As you can see she never missed a meal. She had the equivalent of an "all you can eat" buffet right up until today. Now he will have the same going forward. Looking for a 950+ weaning weight on this one. We gave him Multimin and 20 cc's of Gro Tec's Ag bac plus.

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He is sired by SAV Supercharger 6813. The hidden treasure, "sleeper" bull owned by Square B, available through Select Sires, that has both Blackcap May 4136 and Madame Pride 0075 in the same bloodline, not to mention Rito 707 of Ideal. Really loving what I'm seeing from him as of today. I have others on the way from Supercharger and will use him a lot more if this is the result. Need to get some daughters now.

Say what you want about SAV and hype, but Supercharger is one bull I would highly recommend, especially to get daughters from.

Will post EPD's and registration number for him as soon as I get the DNA test back. At the moment there are 2 DNA proven as per AAA. We don't own them.


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Re: Hoss squared

Post by sim.-ang.king » Sun May 12, 2019 3:55 pm

Yep, that's a calf.
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Re: Hoss squared

Post by Lazy M » Sun May 12, 2019 4:51 pm

What are you going to register him as? " Unmarketable" ?

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Re: Hoss squared

Post by True Grit Farms » Sun May 12, 2019 4:58 pm

Lazy M wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 4:51 pm
What are you going to register him as? " Unmarketable" ?
In all fairness lot of Brookhill's BW is because of environment and management. It just hard to buy a bull and wait a year before you'd dare put him on heifers.
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Re: Hoss squared

Post by Nesikep » Sun May 12, 2019 5:07 pm

I'd hope a 2100 lb cow wouldn't have a problem with a 100 lb calf
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Re: Hoss squared

Post by Bright Raven » Sun May 12, 2019 5:12 pm

Nesikep wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 5:07 pm
I'd hope a 2100 lb cow wouldn't have a problem with a 100 lb calf
I can support this with data. I have over the last 10 years had several heifers that weighted in the 1200 pound range, deliver 100 pound calves unassisted. I frequently have heifers deliver 85 pound calves. I don't like heifers having 100 pound calves, but it happens.

I have said it before. If folks start weighing their calves, they are going to find out that those 75 and 80 pound calves are 80 and 90 pounds.
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Re: Hoss squared

Post by Red Bull Breeder » Sun May 12, 2019 5:34 pm

I am a firm believer that a heifer should be able to have a 80 to 85 lb calf with no problem. I believe the middle of the road is a good place to be.100 lb calves sure isn't in the middle of the road for me.

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Re: Hoss squared

Post by Redgully » Sun May 12, 2019 5:36 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 5:12 pm
Nesikep wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 5:07 pm
I'd hope a 2100 lb cow wouldn't have a problem with a 100 lb calf
I can support this with data. I have over the last 10 years had several heifers that weighted in the 1200 pound range, deliver 100 pound calves unassisted. I frequently have heifers deliver 85 pound calves. I don't like heifers having 100 pound calves, but it happens.

I have said it before. If folks start weighing their calves, they are going to find out that those 75 and 80 pound calves are 80 and 90 pounds.
This is so true, kept hearing a guy tell me none of his calves go over 80 pounds......only to find he never weighs any! They look as big and bigger than mine and i sit in the 90-100 bracket but weigh everything.

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Re: Hoss squared

Post by Nesikep » Sun May 12, 2019 5:53 pm

True Grit Farms wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 4:58 pm
Lazy M wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 4:51 pm
What are you going to register him as? " Unmarketable" ?
In all fairness lot of Brookhill's BW is because of environment and management. It just hard to buy a bull and wait a year before you'd dare put him on heifers.
wouldn't CED tell you a lot about that?
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Re: Hoss squared

Post by Red Bull Breeder » Sun May 12, 2019 6:25 pm



Weighed 96 lbs 14 days past his due date and breach.



This is him at a month and 10 days or so old. I don't like 96 lb birth weights. Normal birth the cow would have had him no problem. She has had the biggest calf born on this farm. I don't know what he weighted but it was more than 125 lbs.

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Re: Hoss squared

Post by True Grit Farms » Sun May 12, 2019 6:33 pm

Nesikep wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 5:53 pm
True Grit Farms wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 4:58 pm
Lazy M wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 4:51 pm
What are you going to register him as? " Unmarketable" ?
In all fairness lot of Brookhill's BW is because of environment and management. It just hard to buy a bull and wait a year before you'd dare put him on heifers.
wouldn't CED tell you a lot about that?
I'm not willing to risk a train wreck to find out if he'll produce up to his numbers. Broadway taught a lot of folks that epds can be manipulated or wrong.
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Re: Hoss squared

Post by Nesikep » Sun May 12, 2019 6:54 pm

Red Bull Breeder wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 6:25 pm


Weighed 96 lbs 14 days past his due date and breach.



This is him at a month and 10 days or so old. I don't like 96 lb birth weights. Normal birth the cow would have had him no problem. She has had the biggest calf born on this farm. I don't know what he weighted but it was more than 125 lbs.
He's a nice looking calf!.. Southerners seem to have a different definition of high birthweights... I've had a bunch at around 140, usually from 16-1800 lb cows.

6 year old cow with lots of width, she made big calves no matter what, big at weaning time too, she had the milk to feed them
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Re: Hoss squared

Post by Muddy » Sun May 12, 2019 9:42 pm

He'll makes a fine steer.

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Re: Hoss squared

Post by Brookhill Angus » Sun May 12, 2019 11:54 pm

Muddy wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 9:42 pm
He'll makes a fine steer.
Thank you, I think he will make excellent steers as well, he will go to work as a yearling. Should weigh around 1500+ by then.
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Re: Hoss squared

Post by Brookhill Angus » Mon May 13, 2019 12:09 am

Lazy M wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 4:51 pm
What are you going to register him as? " Unmarketable" ?
“Supercharger Of Brookhill”

As the saying goes “this product is labeled for professional use only”

Did you see his momma? -5 CED, top 3% MW, MH. She’s the equivalent of two cows! he will probably reach 2600-2700 or so at maturity.

This bull will not be for the faint of heart, or people who are worried about their cows buckling in half with their knee caps blowing out.

In fact he shouldn’t even be on the same farm as small cows, LOL!

I might still use him on our heifers though. They can handle him.
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