A President, and two Internationals walk into a pasture....

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A President, and two Internationals walk into a pasture....

Post by Brookhill Angus » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:43 pm

And here is what they look like.

Weaned them earlier than I wanted to, but was pleased with the results. President weaned higher than the two Internationals. He was 797 pounds at 208 days. The Internationals came in at 776 and 784, and they are a month older than President. I'm getting the feeling that old mister President is going to be a hoss at 16 months. Not that the Internationals are shabby, but President has a different feel about him. I think the best is yet to come. Sure wish I had AI'd the entire group to President, kicking myself right now.

Here is a photo of one of the Internationals

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The video of the three is below. President is the one to the far right.

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Re: A President, and two Internationals walk into a pasture....

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:56 pm

You and Ron sure make me wish I could afford to shovel the feed at my calves.

They are very nice.
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Re: A President, and two Internationals walk into a pasture....

Post by sim.-ang.king » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:33 pm

Looking pretty good, know more in 12 months.
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Re: A President, and two Internationals walk into a pasture....

Post by Brookhill Angus » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:35 pm

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:56 pm
You and Ron sure make me wish I could afford to shovel the feed at my calves.

They are very nice.
Thank you. I regret not having them on creep all winter. I think I could have pushed them up to the 900-950 range. The nutritionist at Southern States has told me to hold back on the creep and then pour the feed to them AFTER weaning.

Been experimenting with different things to see what works best, but I’m leaning towards creep on the calves,

These guys had more potential, but the cows couldn’t get them to the 950 pound weaning weights, especially not under the conditions we had in Kentucky this winter.

I need much better cows. LOL!

I’ve got some AI daughters in development that should wean big calves in the future.
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Re: A President, and two Internationals walk into a pasture....

Post by Silver » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:03 pm

They are looking good.
I buy bulls from guys that don't creep them as calves. I like seeing what their mothers can do with them. When they wean 900+ lbs with no creep you know the genetic potential is in place.

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Re: A President, and two Internationals walk into a pasture....

Post by Backbone Ranch » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:09 pm

I really like the International bull on the far left in the video. He appears to have a more masculine appearance, more capacity, and a better rear than the other two. Very good group of weaned calves though.
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Re: A President, and two Internationals walk into a pasture....

Post by slick4591 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:22 pm

So when you guys are talking about creep and growing weaned calves, what exactly are you doing?
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Re: A President, and two Internationals walk into a pasture....

Post by NEFarmwife » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:43 pm

So what are their adjusted? You mention that the two Internationals are a month older, so I presume that this was their actual.

There is no reason, anyone can’t get 800lbs 205 weanings. No creep. That’s a good average to shoot for.

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Re: A President, and two Internationals walk into a pasture....

Post by Brookhill Angus » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:55 pm

NEFarmwife wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:43 pm
So what are their adjusted? You mention that the two Internationals are a month older, so I presume that this was their actual.

There is no reason, anyone can’t get 800lbs 205 weanings. No creep. That’s a good average to shoot for.
Actual weight, not adjusted

That is not the average in Kentucky. More like 550.

Remember, not everyone is raising the caliber of animal that you are. Your cattle would look like front lineman for an NFL team compared to freshman high schoolers if you set them side by side at 205 with what I’ve seen here.
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Re: A President, and two Internationals walk into a pasture....

Post by NEFarmwife » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:13 pm

Brookhill Angus wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:55 pm
NEFarmwife wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:43 pm
So what are their adjusted? You mention that the two Internationals are a month older, so I presume that this was their actual.

There is no reason, anyone can’t get 800lbs 205 weanings. No creep. That’s a good average to shoot for.
Actual weight, not adjusted

That is not the average in Kentucky. More like 550.

Remember, not everyone is raising the caliber of animal that you are. Your cattle would look like front lineman for an NFL team compared to freshman high schoolers if you set them side by side at 205 with what I’ve seen here.

Raising the caliber of animal? You know a large percentage of our herd is commercial, correct? Yes, we use A.I. and breed for a good calf but “high caliber” seems a little extreme but I forgot there isn’t any in between with you. I hope Georgia does a better job than Kentucky on their cattle raising since we are eyeing some heifers there.

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Re: A President, and two Internationals walk into a pasture....

Post by Richnm » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:23 pm

Are they for sale ? I will buy all 3
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Re: A President, and two Internationals walk into a pasture....

Post by True Grit Farms » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:28 pm

NEFarmwife wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:13 pm
Brookhill Angus wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:55 pm
NEFarmwife wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:43 pm
So what are their adjusted? You mention that the two Internationals are a month older, so I presume that this was their actual.

There is no reason, anyone can’t get 800lbs 205 weanings. No creep. That’s a good average to shoot for.
Actual weight, not adjusted

That is not the average in Kentucky. More like 550.

Remember, not everyone is raising the caliber of animal that you are. Your cattle would look like front lineman for an NFL team compared to freshman high schoolers if you set them side by side at 205 with what I’ve seen here.

Raising the caliber of animal? You know a large percentage of our herd is commercial, correct? Yes, we use A.I. and breed for a good calf but “high caliber” seems a little extreme but I forgot there isn’t any in between with you. I hope Georgia does a better job than Kentucky on their cattle raising since we are eyeing some heifers there.
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Re: A President, and two Internationals walk into a pasture....

Post by Brookhill Angus » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:31 pm

NEFarmwife wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:13 pm
Brookhill Angus wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:55 pm
NEFarmwife wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:43 pm
So what are their adjusted? You mention that the two Internationals are a month older, so I presume that this was their actual.

There is no reason, anyone can’t get 800lbs 205 weanings. No creep. That’s a good average to shoot for.
Actual weight, not adjusted

That is not the average in Kentucky. More like 550.

Remember, not everyone is raising the caliber of animal that you are. Your cattle would look like front lineman for an NFL team compared to freshman high schoolers if you set them side by side at 205 with what I’ve seen here.

Raising the caliber of animal? You know a large percentage of our herd is commercial, correct? Yes, we use A.I. and breed for a good calf but “high caliber” seems a little extreme but I forgot there isn’t any in between with you. I hope Georgia does a better job than Kentucky on their cattle raising since we are eyeing some heifers there.
AI makes a world of difference, commercial or registered. A top bull can be a game changer. That’s probably one of the reasons why you have a great herd.

As for KY versus GA, I can’t really comment, but I will say this about KY. If high CED, low BW weren’t the craze, I believe you would see those WW and YW’s head higher in the Bluegrass state because we have an insane amount of forage, it’s the genetics plain and simple.
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Re: A President, and two Internationals walk into a pasture....

Post by Brookhill Angus » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:33 pm

Richnm wrote:
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Are they for sale ? I will buy all 3

They will be in time, we will probably use the President son for clean up.

I will contact you when they are available.
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Re: A President, and two Internationals walk into a pasture....

Post by Richnm » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:35 pm

Ok let me know.
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