Our future HIPPO in the making....

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Our future HIPPO in the making....

Post by Brookhill Angus » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:25 am

This video is for all you hardcore grass guys, I got this little one started soon on that program. LOL!

Here is a Byergo Titus 6340 daughter at 16 days old. She is a tank already. For you Byergo haters, get on the train with Titus, or miss the train, this bull makes some super nice calves.

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Her momma was a little over 1900 pounds after calving, I expect this calf to follow in her footsteps.

here is the calf video

http://bit.ly/2WAhViB


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Re: Our future HIPPO in the making....

Post by True Grit Farms » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:31 am

Just looks like a nice calf to me.
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Re: Our future HIPPO in the making....

Post by Ebenezer » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:52 am

I have learned not to just go on phenotype. :shock: Until there is genetic testing, necessary hoopla and a lot of discussion, EPDs, more discussion, pictures showing daily differences, I just don't know.

Of early calves: do any think that day old pictures or prior to weaning can tell you the future value of the calf? I have semen in the tank from a bull purchased like that years ago. The attraction was two fold for the buyer: dam, including her record and other calves and results plus the calf's individual to near weaning.

Sort of like heifers, I'll get interested in them when they are 4 or 5 years old and have had 3 or 4 calves! Results oriented, I guess?

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Re: Our future HIPPO in the making....

Post by Brookhill Angus » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:54 am

Ebenezer wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:52 am
I have learned not to just go on phenotype. :shock: Until there is genetic testing, necessary hoopla and a lot of discussion, EPDs, more discussion, pictures showing daily differences, I just don't know.

Of early calves: do any think that day old pictures or prior to weaning can tell you the future value of the calf? I have semen in the tank from a bull purchased like that years ago. The attraction was two fold for the buyer: dam, including her record and other calves and results plus the calf's individual to near weaning.

Sort of like heifers, I'll get interested in them when they are 4 or 5 years old and have had 3 or 4 calves! Results oriented, I guess?
Fair enough, I will post as time goes on how she develops.

I realize that things can change. I feel good about this gal however.
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Re: Our future HIPPO in the making....

Post by NEFarmwife » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:27 pm

Ebenezer wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:52 am
I have learned not to just go on phenotype. :shock: Until there is genetic testing, necessary hoopla and a lot of discussion, EPDs, more discussion, pictures showing daily differences, I just don't know.

Of early calves: do any think that day old pictures or prior to weaning can tell you the future value of the calf? I have semen in the tank from a bull purchased like that years ago. The attraction was two fold for the buyer: dam, including her record and other calves and results plus the calf's individual to near weaning.

Sort of like heifers, I'll get interested in them when they are 4 or 5 years old and have had 3 or 4 calves! Results oriented, I guess?
That is why we wait till weaning to even register a calf. I have the info in the calving book (which allows me to still register at the $7 rate)... If it is junk, why am I spending money on it for certs and registrations? We cull purebred stock if it doesn't meet our expectations.

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Post by Bright Raven » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:04 pm

NEFarmwife wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:27 pm
Ebenezer wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:52 am
I have learned not to just go on phenotype. :shock: Until there is genetic testing, necessary hoopla and a lot of discussion, EPDs, more discussion, pictures showing daily differences, I just don't know.

Of early calves: do any think that day old pictures or prior to weaning can tell you the future value of the calf? I have semen in the tank from a bull purchased like that years ago. The attraction was two fold for the buyer: dam, including her record and other calves and results plus the calf's individual to near weaning.

Sort of like heifers, I'll get interested in them when they are 4 or 5 years old and have had 3 or 4 calves! Results oriented, I guess?
That is why we wait till weaning to even register a calf. I have the info in the calving book (which allows me to still register at the $7 rate)... If it is junk, why am I spending money on it for certs and registrations? We cull purebred stock if it doesn't meet our expectations.
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Re: Our future HIPPO in the making....

Post by JMER1533 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:45 pm

That's a nice looking calf. Like Ebeneezer I'd be interested to see what it looks like a few months after being weaned if it were just on grass and no creep or grain. Typically for grass-fed you want shorter, wide, moderate frame with big gut capacity. The large framed cattle just take too much input for a grass-based only operation.

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Re: Our future HIPPO in the making....

Post by Muddy » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:54 pm

Shes perfect for a feedlot heifer

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Re: Our future HIPPO in the making....

Post by Brookhill Angus » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:44 pm

JMER1533 wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:45 pm
That's a nice looking calf. Like Ebeneezer I'd be interested to see what it looks like a few months after being weaned if it were just on grass and no creep or grain. Typically for grass-fed you want shorter, wide, moderate frame with big gut capacity. The large framed cattle just take too much input for a grass-based only operation.
She will never see a creep feeder.
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Re: Our future HIPPO in the making....

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:34 pm

Muddy wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:54 pm
Shes perfect for a feedlot heifer
Based upon what?
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Re: Our future HIPPO in the making....

Post by Nesikep » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:36 pm

I find there are some calves you can tell right away are exceptional, others only start to fill in and look good after a few years.. Some just have the poise and stance naturally.
I have one heifer this year that I could tell nearly right away was going to be a looker.. Spitting image of her mother at that age and she's turned out to be a great cow.. I'll tell you more about her in a few years
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Re: Our future HIPPO in the making....

Post by TexasBred » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:28 pm

Brookhill Angus wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:44 pm
JMER1533 wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:45 pm
That's a nice looking calf. Like Ebeneezer I'd be interested to see what it looks like a few months after being weaned if it were just on grass and no creep or grain. Typically for grass-fed you want shorter, wide, moderate frame with big gut capacity. The large framed cattle just take too much input for a grass-based only operation.
She will never see a creep feeder.
Thought you put everything on full feed to bring out what you called "genetic potential". :???:
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Re: Our future HIPPO in the making....

Post by 76 Bar » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:34 pm

Nice healthy babe. Actual wt at ~ 6.7 months should be +/- 950 lbs.
Pssst...hopefully she's tattooed. ;-)

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Re: Our future HIPPO in the making....

Post by Brookhill Angus » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:41 pm

76 Bar wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:34 pm
Nice healthy babe. Actual wt at ~ 6.7 months should be +/- 950 lbs.
Pssst...hopefully she's tattooed. ;-)
She's tattooed. They all are.
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Re: Our future HIPPO in the making....

Post by Brookhill Angus » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:43 pm

TexasBred wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:28 pm
Brookhill Angus wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:44 pm
JMER1533 wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:45 pm
That's a nice looking calf. Like Ebeneezer I'd be interested to see what it looks like a few months after being weaned if it were just on grass and no creep or grain. Typically for grass-fed you want shorter, wide, moderate frame with big gut capacity. The large framed cattle just take too much input for a grass-based only operation.
She will never see a creep feeder.
Thought you put everything on full feed to bring out what you called "genetic potential". :???:
The mommas are well fed, but I don't let the babes have anything until weaning. They pick around a little bit when the mommas are eating at the bunk, but they rarely get much, the mommas vacuum it up in minutes.
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