New calving season

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Re: New calving season

Post by lithuanian farmer » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:33 pm

Have lost the first calf this year... And it's an AI calf... From my own cow. Was very excited waiting for her new calf... She baked this one for abit longer- 292days. By the time I found her, she was standing and licking her newborn dead calf. He probably stuck on his hips for abit and it doesn't take long for a calf to die in such position... The calf isn't very big- 119lbs, but already muscled. Oh, the "joys" of double muscled breeds...
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Re: New calving season

Post by Redgully » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:12 pm

Sorry to hear that, looks like he would have been a solid boy, big hips. Quite big in the shoulder too. Hopefully the cow breeds back ok.

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Re: New calving season

Post by Silver » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:34 pm

That's a shame. Sorry for your luck.

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Re: New calving season

Post by Nesikep » Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:57 am

Your cows wouldn't even look back to see what happened if they had a 60 lb calf!
sucks to lose them :(
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Re: New calving season

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:46 am

Always the risk on heavy muscled bulls - a risk a lot of us take. Sorry for your loss.
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Re: New calving season

Post by lithuanian farmer » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:55 pm

Yeah, it's always not easy... Luckily the cow is okay. Brought her home. Very good girl, but not impressed with the fact of being separated from the herd and being in the shed. Put a calf with her, which mom didn't had milk after calving and so hopefully the calf finally will have a mom for her alone. Cow seems to be pretty keen to take a calf.
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She usually comes inheat pretty quickly and has a good fertility, have moved from october to june calving with five calvings, one was a set of twins.
That's such a good example that the weight of the calf at birth isn't the most important thing. The shape plays the biggest role...
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Your cows wouldn't even look back to see what happened if they had a 60 lb calf!
sucks to lose them :(
Our smallest calf ever was 57lbs, and it was a twin. Second smallest was 66lbs from 15months old heifer. Can't imagine a single 60lbs calf myself! 90-100lbs is ideal for me. Easy calved, but has pretty good size.

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Re: New calving season

Post by lithuanian farmer » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:57 pm

Have this girl calving tonight. Hope to find a lovely calf in the morning. Calf will be from a herd bull, so nothing too fancy.
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Re: New calving season

Post by Nesikep » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:11 pm

Good that you have a calf for her.. keep her busy, and hopefully tonight is better!
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Re: New calving season

Post by lithuanian farmer » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:27 am

And here is a new boy!
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There should be only one more calf left due from the previous herd bull.
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Will have some AI calves in summer too. the first is due at the beginning of July- Charolais. There will be blonde, simmental and a couple charolais calves before fall.

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Re: New calving season

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:16 am

Getting quite a nice group of cattle.
I agree on BW - I like the 80-95# range myself. Rare (very rare) to have one under 70#.
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Re: New calving season

Post by lithuanian farmer » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:08 am

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Getting quite a nice group of cattle.
I agree on BW - I like the 80-95# range myself. Rare (very rare) to have one under 70#.
Yup, very happy with the AI group. Now on grass, calves started "blooming".
Ideal BW for me is ~90lbs for heifers, 100lbs for cows. They sure can calve bigger calves unassisted, but these weights are the safest. Not afraid to challenge some cows if I know that they can handle it well. You never know what can go wrong, but small BW isn't 100% safe either.

Have found that one AI station has a nice looking simmental bull's straws. Really like the way he looks. He has 121lbs BW thought. His numbers shows that he'll add some growth and his daughters will be easy calving. I'm quite tempted to try him out on 2-3 easiest calving cows...

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Re: New calving season

Post by lithuanian farmer » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:23 am

Just a month since cows went out on grass, but it sure made a great impact for calves.
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This one is looking better almost every day. It was a good decision to use his sire for his dam. I had a feeling that it should make an excellent cross.
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Image Elder bull calves walking with cow inheat.

Image Two weeks old heifer. She'll be a nice one in the future. Four daughters from her dam are already in the herd.
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Re: New calving season

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:41 am

Those are "your money making kind". Very impressive muscling. Nothing "I" would like in my herd for a female, but everyone has to admire those butts!!! Really growing leaps & bounds!
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Re: New calving season

Post by lithuanian farmer » Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:10 pm

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
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Those are "your money making kind". Very impressive muscling. Nothing "I" would like in my herd for a female, but everyone has to admire those butts!!! Really growing leaps & bounds!
Thanks. I don't want something too extreme as a cow, but I'm sure what I'd consider perfect for many it wouldn't be suitable for breeding. Sure, double muscled cattle have very big risk at calving. I'm not against having them in the herd, as long as cows can calve well without c-section. Even if we can keep a closer eye on them at the calving time, I don't want any which would struggle to calve a normal size calf.
That one cow, on the left in the pic with elder calves, is 1st calver. She looks very impressive in reality, pure muscle beast. Her first calf weighed 97lbs and she needed some assistance. She has grown alot now and she should have her second calf from an easy calving AI limousine bull. If she won't have trouble, she should stay for quite a while. But I wouldn't want to have many like her. She carries alot of risk.

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Re: New calving season

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:46 am

Yes, females with heavy muscling tend to be "tight" in the birth canal. Always potential problem.
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