On the bull hunt

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On the bull hunt

Post by lithuanian farmer » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:29 pm

Started looking for a new bull. Have contacted one farmer, which should have quite promising Limousine cattle. At the moment he has 12- 17'November-18'January born bull calves, 3 are already reserved. 7 were born from AI, other from natural service. Should get some photos of the available bulls after the weekend. If we'll see something we like, we'll go for a visit. As for now got some info about the bulls. Have to say, quite impressive birth weights.
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#712, 103.4lbs BW, 210days weight- 803lbs, AI.
#730, 103.4lbs BW, 210days- 777.4lbs.
#713, 116.6lbs BW, 210days- 781lbs, AI.
#152, 103.4lbs BW, 210days- 759lbs.
#728, 116.6lbs BW, 210days- 748lbs.
#723, 134.2lbs BW, 210days- 721.6lbs, AI.
#720, 85.8lbs BW, 210days- 668.8lbs.
#711, 92.4lbs BW, 210days- 642.4lbs, AI.
#153, 94.6lbs BW, 210days- 638lbs.

Reserved:
#714, 121lbs BW, 210days- 792lbs, AI.
#715, 121lbs BW, 210days- 774.4lbs, AI.
#725, 110lbs BW, 210days- 723.8lbs, AI .

Will see how they'll look in reality.



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Re: On the bull hunt

Post by 5S Cattle » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:48 pm

I wouldn’t mind seeing a 134 lb calf born. Not out of one of my cows lol. Wonder what the dams look like

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Re: On the bull hunt

Post by ALACOWMAN » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:43 pm

Not seeing the calves but,I like the lighter BW with the heavier WW...
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Re: On the bull hunt

Post by ALACOWMAN » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:53 pm

5S Cattle wrote:I wouldn’t mind seeing a 134 lb calf born. Not out of one of my cows lol. Wonder what the dams look like
seen a calf that weighed just shy of 200 pds.pulled at the vet clinic..from a registered traditional type Simmental..
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Re: On the bull hunt

Post by Coosh71 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:36 pm

Wow... My calves are 70s average. For my cows sake I'm glad they are.

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Post by Supa Dexta » Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:23 pm

5S Cattle wrote:I wouldn’t mind seeing a 134 lb calf born. Not out of one of my cows lol. Wonder what the dams look like


There you go. Unassisted, on grass, she'd be 1500 and some lbs.

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Re: On the bull hunt

Post by 5S Cattle » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:35 pm

Supa Dexta wrote:
5S Cattle wrote:I wouldn’t mind seeing a 134 lb calf born. Not out of one of my cows lol. Wonder what the dams look like


There you go. Unassisted, on grass, she'd be 1500 and some lbs.

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Re: On the bull hunt

Post by 5S Cattle » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:36 pm

ALACOWMAN wrote:
5S Cattle wrote:I wouldn’t mind seeing a 134 lb calf born. Not out of one of my cows lol. Wonder what the dams look like
seen a calf that weighed just shy of 200 pds.pulled at the vet clinic..from a registered traditional type Simmental..

Someone did everything wrong :shock:

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Re: On the bull hunt

Post by lithuanian farmer » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:31 am

5S Cattle wrote:I wouldn’t mind seeing a 134 lb calf born. Not out of one of my cows lol. Wonder what the dams look like

We should go for a visit when there will be some time. Maybe in winter during holidays. Owner's herd is built from French genetics. Have seen one young heifer from his herd just recently. Nice long, round shaped heifer.
We had two bigger calves than this. Both limox, one was 145.2lbs, another +-154lbs, maybe 160lbs. Good 400lbs difference in dams weights. The first one needed assistance, the second born without any problem.

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Re: On the bull hunt

Post by elkwc » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:07 am

On mature cows we shoot for around 85 lbs BW. We have been under the last few years. I feel you leave too much money on the table when you go under 80 lbs and especially 70 or lower. We have seen a few calves in the 90's but nothing like LF sees. I helped with a C section at the vets on a top bred Char cow in the 70's and with bathroom scales he was around 150 lbs. The biggest I've seen.

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Re: On the bull hunt

Post by lithuanian farmer » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:25 am

elkwc wrote:On mature cows we shoot for around 85 lbs BW. We have been under the last few years. I feel you leave too much money on the table when you go under 80 lbs and especially 70 or lower. We have seen a few calves in the 90's but nothing like LF sees. I helped with a C section at the vets on a top bred Char cow in the 70's and with bathroom scales he was around 150 lbs. The biggest I've seen.

Our average BW this year is 101.2lbs. Some cows better have calves under 100lbs, but for most I don't mind calves up to 120lbs. I like heifers having calves under 100lbs too. 80-90lbs for heifers would be perfect.

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Re: On the bull hunt

Post by lithuanian farmer » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:27 am

ALACOWMAN wrote:Not seeing the calves but,I like the lighter BW with the heavier WW...

The main thing what I'll look at at first will be their muscularity. But for now the bull with biggest weaning weight will be the one I'd like to be the best looking. The new bull would be used on cows only.

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Re: On the bull hunt

Post by lithuanian farmer » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:31 am

The sires of AI calves. One bull is sired by the first bull, all other are sired by the second one.
http://www.interlim.com/hamac-rrvs-france-et-export.html
http://www.interlim.com/engy-rrvs-france-et-export.html

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Post by Stocker Steve » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:40 am

elkwc wrote:On mature cows we shoot for around 85 lbs BW. We have been under the last few years. I feel you leave too much money on the table when you go under 80 lbs and especially 70 or lower. We have seen a few calves in the 90's but nothing like LF sees.


Agreed.
We have seen a few issues with thick shouldered 85 to 90# continental cross bull cavles from heifers. But no issues with cows.
Our biggest calf was a 128# bull calf delivered unassisted from a 1400# cow. He laid in the pasture for a couple days before he could follow her.
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Re: On the bull hunt

Post by frieghttrain » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:34 pm

lithuanian farmer wrote:The sires of AI calves. One bull is sired by the first bull, all other are sired by the second one.
http://www.interlim.com/hamac-rrvs-france-et-export.html
http://www.interlim.com/engy-rrvs-france-et-export.html

Both are good, i'd lean towards the 2nd one as he has a smoother look about him. Have they been tested for the f94L gene?
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