Buying bred X cows

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Buying bred X cows

Post by DCA farm » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:36 pm

Hello
Any if y'all buy bred X cows at kill prices.
Are they normally 1 and done cows or could if I could get a few calves out of them before I'd need to ship them back off I'm wondering if they Would be worth buying or if I should stick to buying young bred cows and cow calf pairs like I have been. I know I've seen some good body condition 5-6 month bred X cows selling at kill prices averaging ($500-$600)



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Re: Buying bred X cows

Post by 1982vett » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:15 pm

Depends on the cow.... some you can keep longer...others “one and done” is one to many. Pretty much the reason they are going for 5-600. You just really don’t know.
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Re: Buying bred X cows

Post by Caustic Burno » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:40 pm

DCA farm wrote:Hello
Any if y'all buy bred X cows at kill prices.
Are they normally 1 and done cows or could if I could get a few calves out of them before I'd need to ship them back off I'm wondering if they Would be worth buying or if I should stick to buying young bred cows and cow calf pairs like I have been. I know I've seen some good body condition 5-6 month bred X cows selling at kill prices averaging ($500-$600)


I have bought opportunity girls for years. I like SS heavies.
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Re: Buying bred X cows

Post by DCA farm » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:40 pm

With weighted calf prices here I know small amount of money could be made calfinv out then selling both in a few months I guess the only way to really know if I could get more than 1 before I'd have to ship them back off will be to bring em home and see.

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Re: Buying bred X cows

Post by kenny thomas » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:55 pm

Im buying some thin cows just because the slaughter price is so cheap. Add weight and hopefully 10 cents a lb by New Years will still make good profit. A calf would just be a bonus.
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Re: Buying bred X cows

Post by BRYANT » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:15 pm

so what is and X cow ?
The sales around here it is 8 yrs., SS = short solid, O = old, BK = broken mouth
A lot of these other than O you can get more than a one and done, but like anything not always.
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Re: Buying bred X cows

Post by DCA farm » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:34 pm

Here they run
X short
XX broke mouth
0 old no teeth

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Re: Buying bred X cows

Post by DCA farm » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:42 pm

Watched a lot of nice looking 1000-1150 pound x brangus/angus type cows go for $0.52-0.53 a pound said they were all bred to angus bulls but I watched 2 year old angus cow calf pairs with heifer calfs sell for $1100 in same sale

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Post by Caustic Burno » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:11 am

DCA farm wrote:Watched a lot of nice looking 1000-1150 pound x brangus/angus type cows go for $0.52-0.53 a pound said they were all bred to angus bulls but I watched 2 year old angus cow calf pairs with heifer calfs sell for $1100 in same sale


There is money to be made with these girls. I am currently helping the widow of my neighbor and this is the route she is taking . Buy some in the spring calve them out and haul in the fall. This keeps her Ag exemptions and removes the hay burden. You need good pens till their homesteaded. Neighbor and I said we will haul for her so no equipment needed either.
This is what really chaps me if she doesn’t keep her place in Ag she can’t afford the taxes to live in her home. An elderly widow woman shouldn’t be faced with that burden. Just wrong in my book.
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Re: Buying bred X cows

Post by bird dog » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:45 am

CB why don't you lease it from her or at least write a lease. I did that with an elderly couple that was having some issues with the tax man. They had no animals but let me graze their place. Problem was they didn't have much grass so the cows were not over there but just a week or so every three months. The tax man would never see them but the signed lease shut him up.

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Post by Caustic Burno » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:55 am

bird dog wrote:CB why don't you lease it from her or at least write a lease. I did that with an elderly couple that was having some issues with the tax man. They had no animals but let me graze their place. Problem was they didn't have much grass so the cows were not over there but just a week or so every three months. The tax man would never see them but the signed lease shut him up.


That’s an excellent idea.
We will have to sit on the porch and chew on that one.
If we can get her son that lives off to mow it once a year, my few cows couldn’t keep up with it.
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Re: Buying bred X cows

Post by Brute 23 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:39 am

Caustic Burno wrote:
bird dog wrote:CB why don't you lease it from her or at least write a lease. I did that with an elderly couple that was having some issues with the tax man. They had no animals but let me graze their place. Problem was they didn't have much grass so the cows were not over there but just a week or so every three months. The tax man would never see them but the signed lease shut him up.


That’s an excellent idea.
We will have to sit on the porch and chew on that one.
If we can get her son that lives off to mow it once a year, my few cows couldn’t keep up with it.


Maybe you make that the terms of the lease. You mow in exchange for running the few cows on her place or you put x amount and she puts x amount. Yours run on her place in exchange for you taking care of hers. Flipping auction barn cattle does not seem like a good game for a widow to be playing.
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Re: Buying bred X cows

Post by Caustic Burno » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:51 am

Brute 23 wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:
bird dog wrote:CB why don't you lease it from her or at least write a lease. I did that with an elderly couple that was having some issues with the tax man. They had no animals but let me graze their place. Problem was they didn't have much grass so the cows were not over there but just a week or so every three months. The tax man would never see them but the signed lease shut him up.


That’s an excellent idea.
We will have to sit on the porch and chew on that one.
If we can get her son that lives off to mow it once a year, my few cows couldn’t keep up with it.


Maybe you make that the terms of the lease. You mow in exchange for running the few cows on her place or you put x amount and she puts x amount. Yours run on her place in exchange for you taking care of hers. Flipping auction barn cattle does not seem like a good game for a widow to be playing.


I don’t want more cows or land my acres is all I can handle.
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Re: Buying bred X cows

Post by Texas Gal » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:45 am

Caustic Burno wrote:
bird dog wrote:CB why don't you lease it from her or at least write a lease. I did that with an elderly couple that was having some issues with the tax man. They had no animals but let me graze their place. Problem was they didn't have much grass so the cows were not over there but just a week or so every three months. The tax man would never see them but the signed lease shut him up.


That’s an excellent idea.
We will have to sit on the porch and chew on that one.
If we can get her son that lives off to mow it once a year, my few cows couldn’t keep up with it.


We've done this a time or two in the past. Worked well for everyone.

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Re: Buying bred X cows

Post by elkwc » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:55 pm

Around here if there is any doubt on an older cow the buyers I know who buy the older cows just run them through the chute and either mouth them theirselves or have the vet too. If they have enough teeth they keep them and if not they run them back through the sale and usually get close to what they gave. Of if close enough they will sell them and take them right back to town. But I've seen a buyer get 2-3 more calves depending on how they take care of them.

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