Charolais

[aussie_cowgirl]

I was looking at LT Bluegrass a while back. But he might not suit what you're doing. And he's an AI sire. But cattleman's suggestion use a lot of LT and co-own with LT so it's worth a look
LT Bluegrass: http://www.bovine-elite.com/charepd.asp?ID=168
LT ranch: http://www.ltranch.com/charolais/sires/index.html

[kenny thomas]

How about LT Thundering Wind 5200? More to my liking in growth.

[aussie_cowgirl]

He still looks like a calving ease bull too. He's nice as well. I'm really big on depth, as you can see with my preference. I think the LT are nice though. I can't remember the other bulls I was looking at...

Edit: Another good growthy one is OBG Stan but his calving ease isn't as good as the LT bulls

What were you going to put the Charolais over?

[kenny thomas]

BRG you caught me. I would be ran out of the county if I bring in a Red Angus bull though. What I have in mind is some of your Red Angus commercial heifers and a Charolais bull. Cattleman200, the bull LT Thundering Wind 5200 from their farm is also what I had in mind. I think he is co-owned with the ranch BRG mentioned.

[kenny thomas]

aussie_cowgirl, I have bred the Charlois bulls to about every breed with pretty good success, even longhorn. In the US pure Charolais feeders usually do not sell very well but the cross do well. No matter what I cross them with they sell as a CharX. Not so with a lot of other breed bulls. If I get a spot from the Simmental or Angus bulls it is took out of the group and sells at a discount.
I am using 4 Homo Black Simmy bulls now and really like the growth but have a few spots that are going to cost me at sale time. Too all others bulls I have used are, very good Black Angus, Black and Red Limo's, Black Gelvieh's(sp), and now the Simmys and I still like the Charolais best.

[VLS_GUY]

Aussie_cowgirl,

LT Bluegrass is too low in performance and his birth weight EPD has been creeping up to consider using. For a pure calving ease bull I like Shelco Made Easy. Check him out at: http://www.stauffercharolais.com/. Much higher performance, thicker made, and as good calving ease. He is also a complete outcross for most US breeders.
Right now the ideal Charolais herdsire to use on British based commercial cows would be Pleasant Dawn Marshall Check out him at:
http://www.charolaisbanner.com/genetics/marshall.htm. Note he is also an outcross bull with great EPDs and confirmation.

[kenny thomas]

I like the EPD's on the second bull but don't like the 98lb BW or the 711WW.

[Australian]

I'm not a greta big fan of Charolais but appreciate what they can do when they are crossed with another breed. I have seen some very nice cattle by LT Wyoming Wind and another bull called Bova Sylvain.

[VLS_GUY]

Australian,

The Charbray from Brazil called the Canchim looks like it may have some utility for Charbray breeders in Australia mainly as a source of outcross ZebuX Charolais genetics. Its worth a look for potential use in the traditional zebu area of Australia. Not bad looking animals. Check them out at: http://www.canchim.com.br/english.asp

[edrsimms]

Dont forget that Chars are low marbling and high lean --so never go with a straight Char-- I think you were on the right track with the blk simmi bulls and there is no reason to fix something that works

[Red Bull Breeder]

Char cross calves sell pretty good around.

[aussie_cowgirl]

Dont forget that Chars are low marbling and high lean --so never go with a straight Char-- I think you were on the right track with the blk simmi bulls and there is no reason to fix something that works

Nothing wrong with experimenting if you have the time and money. They cross Charolais with Murray Greys here and it doesn't affect the marbling, in fact it's one of my favourite crosses because the calves are so all round in terms of meat texture, fat, marbling etc. Besides, tenderness is what you want over marbling imo. No good having a steak that has flavour but is textured like boot. If he's putting them over say an Angus, and he wants marbling, he shouldn't have to worry because the Angus is touted as a marbling breed anyway...

[xbred]

I have just posted 3 Charolais Bulls on The Cattle Range...2 weanlings and 1 ready for service....I would love to post some photos on "cattle today", but i can't seem to make it work... I cross charolais with herford and braford to make really nice yellow baldies and they sell great...the girls are keepers too...

[kenny thomas]

Fould 5 bulls on one post on The Cattle Range in MS. Is that them? PM me the EPD"S if it is.
Cattleman200 found me 40 very good young bulls in north Alabama. Not ready until Oct. but that is ok. Many are out of LT Thunderwind. Going to see them.

[BARNSCOOP]

Just for the heck of it I'll post a CharX heifer that was at a show I went to recently.
This boy has his eyes closed. He is showing a full blood Charolais