Then again Majestic is out of GW Lucky Dice -- and why would you breed to this turd when you could just breed your cows to Lucky Dice?
Loch Valley Fold wrote:I'm a Semex girl myself Personally I like the gold & white simmis - maybe because that is what most have around here
No offense to any black Simmy breeders on here
4CTophand wrote:Loch Valley Fold wrote:Evaluate this Bull
Never in all the time that I've been AI'ing have I choosen a bull based solely on numbers. I prefer to see daughters of the bull or better yet the bull himself his dam, grand-dam, grand-daughters should he have any.
Personally if I was to choose a black simmental I would be more intestered in
http://www.selectsires.com/beef/directo ... jestic.pdf
Link to Select Sires Beef page for those who are interested
http://www.selectsires.com/beef/directo ... _2008.aspx
Majestic is fair as far as his EPDs, API and TI; but his individual performance is in the toilet starting with a 96 lb birth weight unless you are breeeding him to holsteins.His frame score is 6.5 which is unaccepatable these days of feed efficiency etc.. His MM is high, which translates to a heifer that carries a lot of frame and produces too much milk making her a huge user on resources.. She will mature as a 1500+ lb cow who will eat 45 lbs of hay per day and/ or forage and will probably produce the same sized calf as a frame score 5.5 cow and she will produce steer calves that will be framey with low feed efficiency combined with a lager frame and more time spent in the feed yard with a much heavier finishing weight-- this is your basic loose your you know what cow. Then again Majestic is out of GW Lucky Dice -- and why would you breed to this turd when you could just breed your cows to Lucky Dice?
4CTophand wrote:DOC HARRIS wrote:It is just as impossible to evaluate a bull or a cow or any other head of livestock without a visual appraisal available as it was to buy a "mail-order bride" in the 'olden days'! Would you consider buying, or purchasing a bull that you have never seen??
Maybe with a little bit more function on your part you could have looked at who owned him and go look at his picture online? It isn't that difficult to go online and look at this Bull.. Surely I don't have to do all the work for you? Instead of findng fault with my post why can't you stay on topic and evaluate this Bull based on his traits? It is fairly evident that you have not ever bought a single straw of semen in your life and have no idea of how to evaluate a bull based on Genotype and Phenotype. maybe you do have the ability to evaluate a Bull -- I look forward to it--- but I have an idea you will just come back and complain........
3waycross wrote:So instead you live by the EPD and breed your cows to something that looks like an average steer!.................and BTW lay off of Doc!
DOC HARRIS wrote:It is just as impossible to evaluate a bull or a cow or any other head of livestock without a visual appraisal available as it was to buy a "mail-order bride" in the 'olden days'! Would you consider buying, or purchasing a bull that you have never seen??
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