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Re: Solar Farms

Post by TexasBred » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:43 pm

If they leased my property for "x" $$ a month per acre I'd expect that regardless of whether they put a farm on the land or did anything else with it. No different than oil and gas I'd think. If I'm in the pool I get paid based on the lease terms.


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Re: Solar Farms

Post by cowgirl8 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:01 am

Sure hope they come knocking on our door....
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Re: Solar Farms

Post by greybeard » Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:29 am

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Do you have any personal experience in it other than a google?
The solar farm I toured in West Texas didn't leave enough open ground to support much of any kind of livestock and no grass grew under the panels because........no sunlight.
I've been on several solar farms and wind farms as well, but have not personally leased any land for solar use.
The most recent visit was the Orange Grove farm near Corpus Christi in 2018.
The first one I ever went on and was up close to was in either 1995 or '96..a small solar farm that Univ of Texas built at Fort Davis.
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Re: Solar Farms

Post by cowgirl8 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:48 pm

greybeard wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:29 am
cowgirl8 wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:58 pm
Do you have any personal experience in it other than a google?
The solar farm I toured in West Texas didn't leave enough open ground to support much of any kind of livestock and no grass grew under the panels because........no sunlight.
I've been on several solar farms and wind farms as well, but have not personally leased any land for solar use.
The most recent visit was the Orange Grove farm near Corpus Christi in 2018.
The first one I ever went on and was up close to was in either 1995 or '96..a small solar farm that Univ of Texas built at Fort Davis.
More and more are using sheep. I think there are some overseas that graze cattle. The ground isn’t completely covered.
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Re: Solar Farms

Post by greybeard » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:40 pm

TexasBred wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:43 pm
If they leased my property for "x" $$ a month per acre I'd expect that regardless of whether they put a farm on the land or did anything else with it. No different than oil and gas I'd think. If I'm in the pool I get paid based on the lease terms.
Not sure about solar rights but I have seen tell of landowners out in Nolan County reserving their wind rights for turbines.
(Those things are noisy as he// if you get within 200 yards of them. A slow but constant "whoosh! whoosh! whoosh whoosh!!" every time a blade makes it's lower 180 degree pass. Farther away, you don't hear the individual blades but just a dull "HUUUUMMMM" sound that never stops)
I took this picture in Nolan County about 8 years ago from the side of the road not far from the wind farm's visitor center. As soon as I stepped out of the truck, I heard the "HUUUMMMMM".

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Re: Solar Farms

Post by Coosh71 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:33 pm

We have wind farms all over now up in the Texas panhandle. And we noticed a few weeks ago there's a company in Amarillo making the turbines now. Have one lock rancher that has 2 phases of turbines up already with a plan for 2 more. I guess the positive (other than the $) would be that you can still graze your grass. These folks are independently (oil) wealthy, and he told me doesn't make sense to pass that kind of money up. Hard to argue with.

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Re: Solar Farms

Post by JMJ Farms » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:38 pm

ga.prime wrote:
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$1200/acre/year on a 40 year lease. How can you refuse?
Want to see me sell the cows? Offer me that. I will even put panels in the front yard for that price, under a cell tower if they want to put one.
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Re: Solar Farms

Post by TexasBred » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:43 pm

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Not unlike the non stop sound of a pumpjack. You do get use to it. :nod: :lol2:
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Re: Solar Farms

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Not unlike the non stop sound of a pumpjack. You do get use to it. :nod: :lol2:
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Re: Solar Farms

Post by greybeard » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:03 pm

The gas powered pumpjacks take some real getting use to.
I kinda miss those old hit and miss Ajax and Arrow engines. Used to be one about 2 miles from me and it lulled me off to sleep lots of nights.
You used to could buy them for junk iron prices, but now, collectors have driven the price of them up to more than what they cost new in the 40s and 50s.
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Re: Solar Farms

Post by cowgirl8 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:33 am

I was reading that another thing the wind farm get complaints on is shadows... I can see how shadows of the blades moving would drive me nuts. So lucky we aren't in a wind area...
But, interesting things are happening out here... more on it later....
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Re: Solar Farms

Post by hurleyjd » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:26 pm

greybeard wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:40 pm
TexasBred wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:43 pm
If they leased my property for "x" $$ a month per acre I'd expect that regardless of whether they put a farm on the land or did anything else with it. No different than oil and gas I'd think. If I'm in the pool I get paid based on the lease terms.
Not sure about solar rights but I have seen tell of landowners out in Nolan County reserving their wind rights for turbines.
(Those things are noisy as he// if you get within 200 yards of them. A slow but constant "whoosh! whoosh! whoosh whoosh!!" every time a blade makes it's lower 180 degree pass. Farther away, you don't hear the individual blades but just a dull "HUUUUMMMM" sound that never stops)
I took this picture in Nolan County about 8 years ago from the side of the road not far from the wind farm's visitor center. As soon as I stepped out of the truck, I heard the "HUUUMMMMM".

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Re: Solar Farms

Post by greybeard » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:48 pm

"Any retained property rights by deed has value and should be added to the tax rolls and taxed.
It's like stock investments tho...only has a tangible value or taxed if/when it's used.
Next thing you know, someone somewhere will be wanting to increase someone's property value and tax it simply because the sun shines on it.
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Re: Solar Farms

Post by hurleyjd » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:23 am

greybeard wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:48 pm
"Any retained property rights by deed has value and should be added to the tax rolls and taxed.
It's like stock investments tho...only has a tangible value or taxed if/when it's used.
Next thing you know, someone somewhere will be wanting to increase someone's property value and tax it simply because the sun shines on it.
It can get to the point that as time goes one there can be hundreds of heirs to the mineral interest that was retained.Can become a land man's nightmare if the minerals need to be produced. The mineral estate is the dominant estate in Texas.

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Re: Solar Farms

Post by greybeard » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:50 am

hurleyjd wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:23 am
greybeard wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:48 pm
"Any retained property rights by deed has value and should be added to the tax rolls and taxed.
It's like stock investments tho...only has a tangible value or taxed if/when it's used.
Next thing you know, someone somewhere will be wanting to increase someone's property value and tax it simply because the sun shines on it.
It can get to the point that as time goes one there can be hundreds of heirs to the mineral interest that was retained.Can become a land man's nightmare if the minerals need to be produced. The mineral estate is the dominant estate in Texas.
Yep, but he CHOSE that profession.
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