Dog Food - Canine Heart Disease

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Dog Food - Canine Heart Disease

Post by Son of Butch » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:46 am

FDA lists 16 brands of dog food most frequently connected to a spike in dilated cardiomyopathy.
Acana
4Health
Blue Buffalo
Taste of the Wild
Earthborn Holistic
Zignature
California Natural
Fromm
Nature's Domain
Merrick
Natural Balance
Orijen
Nature's Variety
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Nutro
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One thing the brands seem to have in common is labeled 'Grain-Free" with primary ingredients
being: peas, lentils, potatoes.



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Re: Dog Food - Canine Heart Disease

Post by Bright Raven » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:48 am

Thanks for that! I use 4Health. I will investigate. It says grain free.
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Re: Dog Food - Canine Heart Disease

Post by cowgirl8 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:52 am

We've fed our dogs Ole Roy since the 80s. Our dogs live long lives. Scooter, lived into his 20s. Unless they die by accident, they live almost health issue free. My son feeds his new border collie some fancy food that makes his poop red, and he poops a lot. He stays at the house while my son is working during the day. Red poop everywhere
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Re: Dog Food - Canine Heart Disease

Post by TCRanch » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:58 am

I used to feed Natural Balance but switched back to good ol' Purina about 6 months ago.

Dog food not unlike the new Impossible Burgers & fake meat craze:

https://www.drovers.com/article/ghgguru ... LHf_z0toUE

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Re: Dog Food - Canine Heart Disease

Post by TN Cattle Man » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:06 am

I am not sold on this "Grain-Free" fad when it comes to dog foods... Seems like a lot of health related issues are coming to light about it lately. If you study the wolves in nature, one of the first things that they eat after a fresh kill is the stomach contents which usually contain grains, grasses, etc.. I have been feeding a brand of dog food called Victor. They make a lot of different foods including grain-free's. One of the best websites that I have come across to get a truly unbiased review of all brands of dog food is www.dogfoodadvisor.com. The sight can get kind of detailed but if you want to see what ingredients are used and where they are sourced from, I highly recommend you check it out.
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Re: Dog Food - Canine Heart Disease

Post by Ky hills » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:35 am

I'm always kind of leary about feeding our dogs any of it, but what can you do. I have been feeding middle of the road Southern States dog food for several years. I switched to a more expensive lamb and rice variety from SS for my Border Collie, when he started having skin allergies. It seemed to help. With my heeler and her pups I went back to the other. Now that SS is handling Purina, I'm feeding it. Years ago I remember the Purina having some issues too.
Kind of makes me wonder about some of the stuff that we people have available to eat, knowing of all the health issues around.

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Re: Dog Food - Canine Heart Disease

Post by Caustic Burno » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:44 am

Hmm I have been using Taste of the Wild. Looks like it’s research time.
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Re: Dog Food - Canine Heart Disease

Post by 76 Bar » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:56 pm

TCM's link is a good starting point.
http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/
Dig down to find info on the dilated cardiomyopathy issue & most current USDA recommendations.

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Re: Dog Food - Canine Heart Disease

Post by Hippie Rancher » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:09 pm

I rotate a grain free recipe with a rice one. Use Chewy for delivery, Wellness for both cats and dogs. Better nutrition is usually cheaper than vet bills for chronic disease. (same with humans!)

cats supplement themselves with rodents, occasional birds and reptiles - though I try to discourage the latter two. Dogs supplement with...well, they are dogs. LOL

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Re: Dog Food - Canine Heart Disease

Post by sstterry » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:54 pm

Our Vet recommended this. And it is only $20 for 50lb.
https://www.southernstates.com/catalog/ ... 2Bdog-food

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Re: Dog Food - Canine Heart Disease

Post by sim.-ang.king » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:31 pm

Who'd of thought a dog would starve to death on peas and lintels? (sarcasm)

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Re: Dog Food - Canine Heart Disease

Post by True Grit Farms » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:45 pm

Their just dogs and dang lucky to have a place to call home. We feed whatever dog food is on sale. I keep hoping they'll run off but every morning their at the back door wagging their tails looking for a treat.
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Re: Dog Food - Canine Heart Disease

Post by Boot Jack Bulls » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:14 pm

In all honesty, my working dogs are eating whatever is cheap. They get plenty of freezer clean-out, and I usually make sure we have at least one deer to feed them over the winter (last year we got lucky, one got hit by a car and died in the driveway!). They are healthy, fit, outside dogs. If they are really lucky, they get a heated water bowl during the winter, and the barn office has a doggy door, so they can get out of the elements (it's only heated/cooled when I'm working in there). If I have a bred or nursing female around, of course they are treated and fed quite a bit differently...

As far as the grain free fad goes, I think people like to project their own problems on their pets. I'm convinced that most people who have "sensitive" pets, have issues themselves. If grain is so bad for them, why do mine have to eat the goat feed or cracked corn spilled on the floor when a fresh dish of quality dog food is steps away? My dad always said that manufacturers made dog food for people, if they made it for the dogs, it would be the stinkiest, oiliest shyte you could put in a bag...
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Re: Dog Food - Canine Heart Disease

Post by Buck Randall » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:09 pm

If I started a dog food company I would brand it as being made with ingredients chosen by dogs. Mostly placentas and roadkill.

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Re: Dog Food - Canine Heart Disease

Post by wbvs58 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:33 pm

Who provided the information for the recommendation? I bet it was from the likes of Hills, Eukanuba, Walthams. I am a bit cynical when it comes to drug companies and dog food manufacturers. The last I heard was that the Hills rep was giving canine nutrition lectures to Vet students at the local Vet school, a bit of a conflict of interest IMO.

I wouldn't be too worried as long as you keep your dogs fit lean and healthy.

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