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hanging tree dogs..

Postby Nite Hawk » Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:22 pm

Any one ever dealt with a hanging tree dog? what kind of temperament? easy to train?
We have a real nice border collie X heeler, but she is starting to get a bit older, and for some reason she has never had any use for the boys, so we could never get any pups out of her. Am sort of thinking towards the future and wondering what the hanging tree dogs are like...
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Postby Farm Fence Solutions » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:36 am

The good ones are really easy to get along with. Do you plan on starting a pup, or buying one that's already going?
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Postby TN Cattle Man » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:53 am

I have never dealt with them myself personally, but I know a rancher who has two of them and swears that they are the best cattle dogs he's ever worked with! I'm not sure if they make good pets, or strictly working dogs.
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Postby cowgirl8 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:39 am

We have one.. We don't use her for working cows..Very smart but active. They will find a job. Lugnuts job is keeping things out of the yard and fetching a ball. She will fetch a ball until she died, i'm sure. We keep her in with a wire fence. She'd chase cows, or anything that moves if we did not contain her. I had a heeler run over, so no more free dogs.....She has more heeler qualities than anything else...
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Postby Nesikep » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:22 am

Whatever you do, Pinecones are the gateway drug for Heelers.. they can become obsessed with chasing them.. FOREVER!
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Postby cowgirl8 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:02 pm

Lugnut is obsessed with balls. Shes uber aggressive also. If she knows you well, you're ok...But she's always on guard and will stalk a person until she gets a good shot at biting them. But, if I see she's watching for her chance to bite or I was unable to get her before I can walk a person to the house, i'll say, "Where's your ball!!" Cant bit if she has a ball in her mouth and will not put it down to bite..she may act like she's going to bite, but will not put the ball down to do it... We have a entry gate and warnings all along the drive and a entrance with warnings to not pass that point with a phone number.....but, we still have people work their way to the yard...
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Re: hanging tree dogs..

Postby Nite Hawk » Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:38 pm

Have had a number of border collies, some great, some not great, and some lousy..
my opinion, the old more laid back- style BC are better than the hyper new style BC..
Seem to make a better all around dog, I think..
Had BC crossed with heeler, same thing, some great- some not good.
It seems hard to get a real good dog now days, one that can be a good family / kid dog, / cow dog..
might be good in one area, and not good in another area..
The dog we have now has done everything from 4-H obstacle course, to grabbing a cow by the ear,
to threatening someone who wanders in the yard drunk--she hates drunk people with a passion, not sure why..
I am hating to admit she is getting a little bit older, so am starting to think ahead.
It really sucks when you spend time and money working and training a dog, and some how they have a quirk that you totally cannot train out, and you have to find another dog to start all over with, and it does happen from time to time.
The dog we have now has waaay too much "head", almost no heel, but other than that is a great dog, so wondered what a hanging tree dog would be like, one that has both head and heel in them..
and what kind of family dog they make...
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Postby cow pollinater » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:59 pm

I've been around a couple. I don't want one based on what I saw. They want to chew on stock to much for my taste. I want a dog that can handle anything but if all they do is chew it's about like someone jabbing with a hotshot when the cattle are already moving. I'm sure there are some that can back off but that isn't what I saw.
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Postby Cross-7 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:19 pm

I've never owned one or saw one work in person except one time Charlie Trayer http://www.charliescowdogs.com/
Put on a demo at the Western heritage classic.
It was in an arena with dog broke calves.
They seemed work good but it was a controlled environment.

There used to be a cowdog forum and the guy who owned it plus several others were big time hanging tree guys.

Probably like anything else you get a few good ones, but you have to sort through the bad.
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Postby Lazy M » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:20 pm

I have a hanging tree pup that just turned a year old. Hate to say that I'm not overly impressed. He hasn't really shown the interest in cattle so far as some good BC that I've had in the past. Hope that the light bulb just hasn't come on yet.. He is a sweet natured dog though and the kids like him, but he was way too expensive to just be a pet ($650). In my experience it can take a couple of years for a cow dog to cross the hindrance to help plateau.
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Re: hanging tree dogs..

Postby Nite Hawk » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:17 am

Lazy M
I would be patient, I had a dog that hardly looked at a cow till she was about 5, then it seemed the light bulb came on and bingo, she turned into a really good dog. She did have a couple glitches, not sure if it was her female cycles or what, the odd time--not often- when it came time to work, she would kinda, wimp out and give me a --"What you want me to bring in that rank beast" look, and not want to work, but that wasn't often at all, most of the time she would go out and tell that cow in no uncertain terms it was time to come to the barn, or she was going to remove some flesh. She was great with kids, but not always so great with strangers, so just tolerated her extremely rare "not wanting to work attitude."
Often wondered why every rare once in a while she decided she didn't want to work, cause she seemed to love it most of the time..
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Re: hanging tree dogs..

Postby Silver » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:40 am

I have a friend down by Armstrong BC that has Hanging Tree pups ready to go.
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Postby Nite Hawk » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:22 pm

any idea what the price might be??
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Re: hanging tree dogs..

Postby Silver » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:54 am

Nite Hawk wrote:any idea what the price might be??


$500
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