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Re: Penn State updates

Postby cow pollinater » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:10 pm

Any inkling of interest in sports that I've ever had has been killed by this case. Just the notion that someone knew about the whole thing and let it go on to suport something as trivial as a sports team makes me want to say #$@! it ! NO MORE college sports teams.
I understand the predicament that the current players are in but I know where I'd stand in their shoes. I'd tell them upfront that I didn't come to be a part of something like that and I'd move on. I'd do the same if I were a student.
Sports is suposed to be about the human body and spirit... Now it's gotten to the point where people think their team is important enough that they can knowingly allow the supression of the human body and spirit in futherance of the team... Just absolutely sickening.
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Re: Penn State updates

Postby Brute 23 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:03 am

This whole deal is a joke. The sanctions.... taking down the statue.... Its all a PR move to pretend like they care and are doing some thing.

The fact is this happens in sports, education, religion, in the work place.... If there are people involved it will happen. All this other stuff is just for show and doesnt change what happened.... And wont stop it from happening again.
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Re: Penn State updates

Postby Commercialfarmer » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:48 am

cow pollinater wrote:Any inkling of interest in sports that I've ever had has been killed by this case. Just the notion that someone knew about the whole thing and let it go on to suport something as trivial as a sports team makes me want to say #$@! it ! NO MORE college sports teams.
I understand the predicament that the current players are in but I know where I'd stand in their shoes. I'd tell them upfront that I didn't come to be a part of something like that and I'd move on. I'd do the same if I were a student.
Sports is suposed to be about the human body and spirit... Now it's gotten to the point where people think their team is important enough that they can knowingly allow the supression of the human body and spirit in futherance of the team... Just absolutely sickening.


Kinda proves that Football as a religion doesn't do much for humanity, maybe we can start regarding it as a sport again.
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Re: Penn State updates

Postby Alan » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:12 am

I'm trying to keep the crime separate from the football program. Sandusky, will pay for it with his life one way or the other, paterno (sp) is dead, others may face charges, all though I don't know what charges they could face. The president of Penn St at the time was fired, they now have a new one, new head coach, I'm not sure if any of the former asst are still there. So as far as the sick acts themselves the courts and systems are handling it.

The NCAA action were taking not so much for the perverts acts as much as the cover up for so many years. The first person to find out what was going on should have had the brains to call the police and start protecting the kids. Instead it turned into a huge "hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil" cover up and that's what the NCAA lowered the hammer on. The sanctions are close to the death penelity and will take many more than the four yeas to recover from .... And again the two acts are separate the crime is separate from the cover up.

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Re: Penn State updates

Postby VanC » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:54 pm

There's something that some people, especially the ones circling the wagons in good old Happy Valley, don't seem to understand: a pedophile was allowed to continue raping young boys, on university property, for over a decade while the three most powerful men on campus looked the other way. Why? Because they wanted to avoid "bad publicity" for their fine institution and, more importantly, continue to milk the cash cow that is their football program. That is NOT the same as paying for a running back's new tatoo or buying a new house for some hot shot recruit's Mom. Yes, other football programs cheat to a certain degree. Probably most of them. But what happened at Penn State is NOT happening everywhere else. This is truly unprecedented. When I read how Penn State's "leaders" sought to treat Sandusky "humanely", with no mention of those kids that were being raped, I just wanna puke.

You know what they're talking about on the Penn State football forum? Football. As if nothing happened. They're even proposing scheduling a late season game in Hawaii or Florida so they can promise new recruits a "bowl game". Yes, sir, it's business as usual in good old Happy Valley, and they're gearing up to weather the storm and enjoy the most important thing in their sad, pathetic little lives: football. The whole thing makes me sick to my stomach.

Well now it's come out that the majority of the university presidents on the NCAA infractions committee were in favor of giving Penn State a four year death penalty, but the Penn State president managed to negotiate out of it. I've never up until now had anything against Penn State. Heck, as far as I know, I've never even met anyone that went to Penn State. I'm not normally a vindictive person. But when I read about what happened there, and see how the Penn State community is flipping the bird at the rest of the world, I wish they HAD taken away their precious football for a few years. Rub their dam noses in it.
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Re: Penn State updates

Postby Tim/South » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:20 pm

The bottom line for me is:
Would those in power who made a conscious decision to look the other way have made that same decision if the victim had been their son or grandson?

For those who have suggested that programs to help the the victims of sexual abuse do not work, are we to also turn our head and pretend it does not happen? This sort of thing happens. It is just not done by such a high profile pervert. I have a lot of respect for any person who can help these children day in and day out.
I believe 60 million will go a long way to help these programs across the country who spend their days helping, supporting and counseling the abused.
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