Different Dairy Business Options

For the dairy folks and/or beef folks with questions about udders, milk and mastitis.
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Re: Different Dairy Business Options

Postby HonoredCattlemen » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:29 pm

Son of Butch wrote:Given the simplistic nature of your basic questions and wrong assumptions regarding how the dairy industry works in the USA, I would suggest enrolling in a college level Dairy Animal Science class to learn more. (No disrespect intended)


No your 100% going in the right direction. I don't know if I'll make the time for a college level class, but I'm going on a local dairy tour this weekend at a friend of a friends farm and heading to the World Dairy Expo next week and they've got some virtual dairy tours I'm real excited about.

francismilker wrote:My advice, FWIW, Breed your cows using AI and keep a very well bred cleanup bull on the primisis. Do your diligence and heavily cull anything that's not what it should be. Be equally critical when culling both AI and pasture bred calves.

If you need to keep subpar cows to have enough replacements for the year put her offspring on a "Do not keep" list from here on out.

It can take years to do so, but culling your herd based upon production, health, and fertility will pay off in the end.

If you want diversity in your income try something bold. I know one milker who split his wet cow pasture into two tracts. He rotates the two tracts out every other year and uses the used one for raising marketable vegetables and does quite well. It's amazing how well that green stuff can grow veggies!


Thanks for the input, I'll keep this in mind.

I don't like the Igenity test, I feel like that billion dollar company just views us as a cash dispenser and their customer service wasn't very helpful when I was asking them about their test.
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Re: Different Dairy Business Options

Postby cbcr » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:59 am

I don't like the Igenity test, I feel like that billion dollar company just views us as a cash dispenser and their customer service wasn't very helpful when I was asking them about their test.


It depends on who you talk with at GeneSeek as to how helpful they are and how knowledgeable they are about the products they offer, but they are a leader when it comes to genomics. Some of the other companies use genomic chips and tests that were developed by GeneSeek.

Some of the other companies doing genomics only do so for Holstein or Jersey. GeneSeek offers more offerings for other breeds.

With confusion about what tests are available for dairy owners for the breeds is why we worked with a couple of sales reps so that we could put the information on our website. Also contributing to some of the confusion is that some breed associations have genomic tests that have been developed for them and the fee structure is different as those breed associations also make money off of the tests.

Since we started using GeneSeek for their genomics, we have seen the price of many of the test come down in price. We continue to try to offer the best solutions that we can to producers at an affordable price for the best results. Databases with other breeds have to be built up and takes close to 1,000 animals to have enough data to use to make improvements. We do know that other countries are seeking the opportunity to be able to do genomics. Our "Red" breeds can take advantage of the Ayrshire genomic test. With the Fleckvieh (Germany and Austria, primarily), Montbeliarde and Normande from France, these countries have genomics for these breeds, but they will not do genomics on animals outside of their country. So we have to utilize the test that are available and GeneSeek has the best option available right now for genomics of these breeds. With Germany and France refusing to test these breeds is to protect their market and semen sales.

Also the USDA is supposed to be working on a crossbred genomic test, but it is not a priority.
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Re: Different Dairy Business Options

Postby Highpoint » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:32 am

ddd75 wrote:
Son of Butch wrote:Why would any knowledgeable person give a whit about P.E.T.A. let alone keep in mind inflammatory comments?



these are the comments being advertised all over to city people.. who drink milk and buy beef.

yes I will pay attention, as I am dependent on them to buy my beef.

I viewed their site and could counteract all their claims about raw milk with research. I brought my daughter out of stage 4 cancer my husband with heart disease and COPD and realize some of their items are true especially about factory farms. I tell everyone about raw milk bringing children out of asthma and protecting their teeth also however cattle cannot be fed GMO for this to work.
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Re: Different Dairy Business Options

Postby Turkeybird » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:23 pm

B.s.!
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Re: Different Dairy Business Options

Postby Turkeybird » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:34 pm

If that were true then no one would have gotten cancer or had heart problems 50 yrs ago
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Re: Different Dairy Business Options

Postby Highpoint » Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:41 pm

Turkeybird wrote:If that were true then no one would have gotten cancer or had heart problems 50 yrs ago

Not true. There were other chemicals sorry to say. 50 years ago there was very few children with cancer. MIT proved their research tying cancer alzhemers and autism together. It all ties to oxygen in the body and inflammation. GMO cause inflammation easy to prove. The body does not recognize DNA of foreign item. Wake Forest Baptist grows body parts in eight weeks go to YouTube type growing body parts CBS special. They say every cell in the body knows what it is an how to regenerate. In fact Google corn soy canola study showing reduces oxygen in athleties to 17 percent can even cause asthma. They do not say they are using organic. Raw milk has much needed good bacteria. Mayo Clinic used to use raw milk on cancer patients. Helps raise vitamin d levels because requires high GOOD fat sulfur and zinc.

Can't tell you how many people are now on c-pap machines. Doctor bringing people out of deadly cancer Mexico uses hydrogen peroxide because with enough oxygen in the body the cancer disappears.

I am one of thousands maybe more and I am not in the field. no eating them may not kill you quickly but you better get on items that replace what they destroy or you will get sick. Too bad our babies sometimes do not have the chance.
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Re: Different Dairy Business Options

Postby Son of Butch » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:51 pm

Turkeybird wrote:If that were true then no one would have gotten cancer or had heart problems 50 yrs ago

You talk about 1967 as if it were the stone age. :lol2:
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