Stocker calves

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Stocker calves

Post by ez14. » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:44 pm

How much do you expect your stocker calves to gain per day? And how much does it cost you to keep them per day?

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Re: Stocker calves

Post by Lucky » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:54 am

In the winter time I expect them to gain about 1 pound per day. This is on 6-7 pounds feed and very little pickin in the pasture. If they get any hay at all it’s a partial roll left over from feeding the cows. I’m just trying to build frame and get them ready for the spring grass though. I have fed them 10# a day and got what I would guess at closer to 2#s. Finally got a set of scales going so maybe I can start keeping better records. Feed cost for me is 12 cents a pound this year so 70-80 cents a day. I did have a few health issues with them this year. Once I Dr the herd and it cost $130 and one got a shot of Draxxin that cost $42 if you include the dart. Fuel cost is minimal as I’m right by them feeding the cows. Bigfoot wtote a pretty good post on his experience this year.

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Re: Stocker calves

Post by ez14. » Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:00 pm

Thanks lucky

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Re: Stocker calves

Post by Lucky » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:25 pm

I’m surprised there aren’t more replies about stockers on this forum too. I’ve been keeping mine for several years now and feel that it at least pays your money back. Some years I feel like I wasted my time but that’s how you learn the game.

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Re: Stocker calves

Post by Silver » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:31 pm

If I had the feed and the pasture I'd sure like to try. I'd at least like to be able to keep the lighter end of my steers over winter and sell onto grass. Maybe someday.

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Re: Stocker calves

Post by gcreekrch » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:02 pm

Our winter hay is generally not strong enough to get big gains on calves. Hay with 6 lbs of screenings pellets or 3 lb barley and 3 lb screenings will get us about 1 1/4 lb per day gain. Not cheap on a cost of gain basis but usually try to buy cattle that will increase in value with management.

We did background all our calves in 08 and 09. Those two years made us a bunch of money.
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Re: Stocker calves

Post by ez14. » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:43 pm

With my employer selling out he would like to rent out the barn space and sell the feed in the silos and he hasn't figured out a good way to sell it. I am wondering if I could make money renting the barn and buying the feed to take calves from 400ish to 800ish and reselling them

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Re: Stocker calves

Post by gcreekrch » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:05 am

ez14. wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:43 pm
With my employer selling out he would like to rent out the barn space and sell the feed in the silos and he hasn't figured out a good way to sell it. I am wondering if I could make money renting the barn and buying the feed to take calves from 400ish to 800ish and reselling them

As long as you or someone you know is sharp enough to get the buying done right. How many are you thinking?
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Re: Stocker calves

Post by ez14. » Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:17 am

gcreekrch wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:05 am
ez14. wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:43 pm
With my employer selling out he would like to rent out the barn space and sell the feed in the silos and he hasn't figured out a good way to sell it. I am wondering if I could make money renting the barn and buying the feed to take calves from 400ish to 800ish and reselling them

As long as you or someone you know is sharp enough to get the buying done right. How many are you thinking?
20 calves for the first batch

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Re: Stocker calves

Post by gcreekrch » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:25 pm

ez14. wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:17 am
gcreekrch wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:05 am
ez14. wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:43 pm
With my employer selling out he would like to rent out the barn space and sell the feed in the silos and he hasn't figured out a good way to sell it. I am wondering if I could make money renting the barn and buying the feed to take calves from 400ish to 800ish and reselling them

As long as you or someone you know is sharp enough to get the buying done right. How many are you thinking?
20 calves for the first batch
How much do 300 lb Holsteins cost and what are 800 to 900 lb Holsteins worth? Might be a cheap way to get your feet wet. They gain like crazy if fed too.
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Re: Stocker calves

Post by ez14. » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:54 pm

gcreekrch wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:25 pm
ez14. wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:17 am
gcreekrch wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:05 am



As long as you or someone you know is sharp enough to get the buying done right. How many are you thinking?
20 calves for the first batch
How much do 300 lb Holsteins cost and what are 800 to 900 lb Holsteins worth? Might be a cheap way to get your feet wet. They gain like crazy if fed too.
Average at the closest sale barn has 300 pounders going for $285 and 900 pounders going for $742.

Now beef type calves have 300 pounders going for $330 and 900 pounders going for $945

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Re: Stocker calves

Post by gcreekrch » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:28 pm

ez14. wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:54 pm
gcreekrch wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:25 pm
ez14. wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:17 am

20 calves for the first batch
How much do 300 lb Holsteins cost and what are 800 to 900 lb Holsteins worth? Might be a cheap way to get your feet wet. They gain like crazy if fed too.
Average at the closest sale barn has 300 pounders going for $285 and 900 pounders going for $742.

Now beef type calves have 300 pounders going for $330 and 900 pounders going for $945
Beef type calves make more sense if they will perform then. What is your cost of gain without your time included. We always figure any profit is what we are paid for our time and machinery.
Vaccinations, cheaper than whiskey. ;-)

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Re: Stocker calves

Post by ez14. » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:40 pm

gcreekrch wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:28 pm
ez14. wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:54 pm
gcreekrch wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:25 pm


How much do 300 lb Holsteins cost and what are 800 to 900 lb Holsteins worth? Might be a cheap way to get your feet wet. They gain like crazy if fed too.
Average at the closest sale barn has 300 pounders going for $285 and 900 pounders going for $742.

Now beef type calves have 300 pounders going for $330 and 900 pounders going for $945
Beef type calves make more sense if they will perform then. What is your cost of gain without your time included. We always figure any profit is what we are paid for our time and machinery.
I have not talked to my employer about it yet so I don't know what the space and feed would cost yet (or the beding etc...) I'm trying to figure out what I would gross on them so I know what I would be willing to pay my employer before I talk to him about it

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Re: Stocker calves

Post by gcreekrch » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:05 am

ez14. wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:40 pm
gcreekrch wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:28 pm
ez14. wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:54 pm

Average at the closest sale barn has 300 pounders going for $285 and 900 pounders going for $742.

Now beef type calves have 300 pounders going for $330 and 900 pounders going for $945
Beef type calves make more sense if they will perform then. What is your cost of gain without your time included. We always figure any profit is what we are paid for our time and machinery.
I have not talked to my employer about it yet so I don't know what the space and feed would cost yet (or the beding etc...) I'm trying to figure out what I would gross on them so I know what I would be willing to pay my employer before I talk to him about it
Therein lies the question.
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Re: Stocker calves

Post by ez14. » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:10 am

gcreekrch wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:05 am
ez14. wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:40 pm
gcreekrch wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:28 pm


Beef type calves make more sense if they will perform then. What is your cost of gain without your time included. We always figure any profit is what we are paid for our time and machinery.
I have not talked to my employer about it yet so I don't know what the space and feed would cost yet (or the beding etc...) I'm trying to figure out what I would gross on them so I know what I would be willing to pay my employer before I talk to him about it
Therein lies the question.
yeah

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