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Postby Craig Miller » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:44 am

What do you give sheep to help control the flies? Is there a mineral with fly control? My feed supply don't have anything. He tried to sell me something and I kept questioning him until he called the supplier and was told it wasn't safe for sheep.
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Postby RanchMan90 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:24 am

Craig Miller wrote:What do you give sheep to help control the flies? Is there a mineral with fly control? My feed supply don't have anything. He tried to sell me something and I kept questioning him until he called the supplier and was told it wasn't safe for sheep.

I haven't really had a problem with them before. Hair sheep or wool? A permethrin base product should be fine or catron for spot spraying horn flies etc.
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Postby Craig Miller » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:50 am

Wool. Show sheep. The problem is not so much on the sheep but around the area they stay which is very close to the house. I need to break the cycle somehow. I have a permethrin but it only kills the live ones.
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Postby Craig Miller » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:55 am

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Postby RanchMan90 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:19 am

Looking good. Fly traps of the sticky variety are pretty effective around barns and outbuildings.
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Postby Craig Miller » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:22 am

RanchMan90 wrote:Looking good. Fly traps of the sticky variety are pretty effective around barns and outbuildings.


I have a fly trap. I saw some giant stickys at the feed store made for horse stables I think. I may give those a try
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Postby skyhightree1 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:56 am

RanchMan90 wrote:
Craig Miller wrote:What do you give sheep to help control the flies? Is there a mineral with fly control? My feed supply don't have anything. He tried to sell me something and I kept questioning him until he called the supplier and was told it wasn't safe for sheep.

I haven't really had a problem with them before. Hair sheep or wool? A permethrin base product should be fine or catron for spot spraying horn flies etc.


Craig,
I also have not had many issues on my hair sheep but I do spray them with permethrin same as I have with my cattle. However, I don't know for sure but I don't think they have a fly control mineral if I remember correctly when buying my fly control mineral there was a warning keep away from sheep don't hold me to it but I think there was a sign.

Craig Miller wrote:Wool. Show sheep. The problem is not so much on the sheep but around the area they stay which is very close to the house. I need to break the cycle somehow. I have a permethrin but it only kills the live ones.


Craig,
This year flys have been HORRIBLE for me here and I raise bottle babies in a building and use permethrin along with some talstar and it keeps them under control for a few days. However what I found best to control flies is if you go to your ag store theres a like 30' roll of fly tape with fly pictures on it it catches hundreds a day and mosquitoes then theres things you put on milk jugs and then put the fly bait and water inside I filled up a couple of those in a week really put a whack on the flies and got them under control but didn't elimate them.
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Re: Ranchman, sky, Tb

Postby Turkeybird » Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:02 pm

Baythroid! But not on the sheep only in the loafing area
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Postby farmerjan » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:37 pm

I know that there have been several on here that have POOH POOHED the whole thing with DE but I have found that it has cut the fly populations by more than half this year and they have been terrible. I just mix a cupful in with any type of loose mineral 40 or 50 lb bag. I use a glove to mix it as it will cause some dryness on the skin and I hate the loose mineral on my skin too. We have it mixed in to our feed rations that we buy by the ton. It has also cut the worm populations and YES that is from checking fecal samples. We have both cattle and sheep, hair sheep, White Texas Dall sheep. We do some worming on the sheep, but not every one every time. And any that are chronic problems GO..... same with the cattle. We do little/ no regular worming on the adult cows. That said, I have found that the fly populations have been especially bad with the mild winter we had last year; but I will still swear by the DE. Also works in the dusting back rubs for cattle but don't know about the sheep.
Have used the gallon jug fly traps and the sticky tapes in the barn too and they do work. Anything to cut the numbers...
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Postby Jogeephus » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:20 pm

This is a little out of the box but you could spray the areas where there is a lot of dung with Diflumax. About an ounce to the acre and it costs about $1/ounce. Do this every two weeks and it will make it where the larva cannot grow. For adult flies try some Golden Marlin. You can scatter this on the ground but with livestock and pets you might be better off building some feeders or racks to pour it in. Its an attractant but is brutal on flies and you'll surely get a smile watching the flies drop dead. I think you will find this combination not only cheap but very effective.
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Re: Ranchman, sky, Tb

Postby Turkeybird » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:07 pm

Chickens are great maggot getters
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Postby kd4au » Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:15 pm

Craig Miller wrote:Image

Pretty place . I nothing about sheep though. Ever show any cattle? I have a good friend and his daughter shows, they do very well.
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Postby Craig Miller » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:54 pm

Turkeybird wrote:Chickens are great maggot getters


We let the hens in there a day or two a week
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Re: Ranchman, sky, Tb

Postby Craig Miller » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:56 pm

kd4au wrote:
Craig Miller wrote:Image

Pretty place . I nothing about sheep though. Ever show any cattle? I have a good friend and his daughter shows, they do very well.


Well we don't either. These are the first we've ever been around. We don't show calves. We have shown chickens, hogs, and now lambs. If it cost anymore to show calves then I don't see how a person does it.
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Re: Ranchman, sky, Tb

Postby kd4au » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:37 pm

Craig Miller wrote:
kd4au wrote:
Craig Miller wrote:Image

Pretty place . I nothing about sheep though. Ever show any cattle? I have a good friend and his daughter shows, they do very well.


Well we don't either. These are the first we've ever been around. We don't show calves. We have shown chickens, hogs, and now lambs. If it cost anymore to show calves then I don't see how a person does it.

I think it's like a lot of things you can spend as much as you want to on it, my friend spends more on it than I could afford that's for sure.
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