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Postby longhornlover3498 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:57 pm

we had a longhorn/blk max cross steer in a 5 acre pasture with 3 angus heifers since last august. the heifers were 15 months old and we were getting ready to put them with the bull next month. the only bull(s) we have had on the ranch are homozygous black. the heifers are registered and haven't had any contact with the other cattle except the meat steer. then out of now where 2 of the heifers had spotted calves!!! :o i am very surprised becaused that steer we cut our selves. he was going to be slaughtered this fall. i need help. there is no way our other bulls could've sired those calves.
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Re: steer sires calves

Postby vclavin » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:30 pm

That alien must of got your heifers too!! I got one we can't find the daddy to with DNA testing!
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Re: steer sires calves

Postby hooknline » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:33 pm

Immaculate conception strikes again. Probably thousands of times a year across the country.
Wonder if the ghost bull has decent epd's
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Re: steer sires calves

Postby cow pollinater » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:25 pm

If they're fifteen months old now and have full term calves then they got bred about the time they were getting weaned.
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Re: steer sires calves

Postby Alan » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:42 pm

cow pollinater wrote:If they're fifteen months old now and have full term calves then they got bred about the time they were getting weaned.



When you cut the steer, I assume, you counted two. My next thought is how many months was the steer with the heifers? Nine or ten or more? Where they bred already when you bought them?

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Re: steer sires calves

Postby fitz » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:26 pm

longhornlover3498 wrote:we had a longhorn/blk max cross steer in a 5 acre pasture with 3 angus heifers since last august. the heifers were 15 months old and we were getting ready to put them with the bull next month. the only bull(s) we have had on the ranch are homozygous black. the heifers are registered and haven't had any contact with the other cattle except the meat steer. then out of now where 2 of the heifers had spotted calves!!! :o i am very surprised becaused that steer we cut our selves. he was going to be slaughtered this fall. i need help. there is no way our other bulls could've sired those calves.


I take it they're heifers you brought in. You mentioned on Cornivore's post you had a 17 month heifer calf also. I'd try and get a handle on the circumstances as your luck may take a turn.

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Re: steer sires calves

Postby Taurus » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:35 pm

If I remember correctly in other post, she sells crossbred longhorn bull calves to the sale barn when they are a year old or so?
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Re: steer sires calves

Postby longhornlover3498 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:33 pm

cow pollinater wrote:If they're fifteen months old now and have full term calves then they got bred about the time they were getting weaned.

the guy we bought them from raises reg. black angus. the only other cattle near his place are red.
Taurus wrote:If I remember correctly in other post, she sells crossbred longhorn bull calves to the sale barn when they are a year old or so?
if you payed attention to my post i wrote that they were put with the steer since we got them and had no contact with our other cattle. our bulls were 5 or 6 pastures away from them and we made it so that they couldn't get out.
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Re: steer sires calves

Postby Tim/South » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:40 pm

How long had the steer been cut before he was put in with the heifers?
They can breed for @ 7 days after being cut.
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Re: steer sires calves

Postby longhornlover3498 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:16 pm

Tim/South wrote:How long had the steer been cut before he was put in with the heifers?
They can breed for @ 7 days after being cut.
Found that out by accident.

3 months. his mother died when he was 2 months so he was a bottle calf. he stayed in our corral til he was six months,then we put him with our other 2 spotted steers. they sold very quickly so he was by himself for a month or so. we bought the heifers with our steer money. we are planning to get the calves DNA'ed next week. if they are his...he is gonna be meat immediately.
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Re: steer sires calves

Postby MO_cows » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:16 pm

I still am not clear on the timing. If the heifers are 15-16 months now and calving, they were likely bred before they were weaned. So the culprit in that case is most likely another calf, an ambitious bull calf.
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Re: steer sires calves

Postby longhornlover3498 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:40 pm

the third heifer,sally,just had a red/white heifer this morning,the other two,donna and coco both had bull calves. heifers are january calves. we bought them 3 weeks after being weaned. the results are supposed to come in tomarrow,for the time being meat is in a corral by himself.will let you guys know what they come back as.
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Re: steer sires calves

Postby longhornlover3498 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:05 pm

OMG! My grandfather just told me that the results came back positive...the steer sired the calves. looks like meat is the maincourse this fathersday weekend... :shock:
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Re: steer sires calves

Postby Taurus » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:33 pm

well you have colored calves....and you have longhorns which are colored. Shouldn't be that hard to figure that one out.
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Re: steer sires calves

Postby longhornlover3498 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:09 pm

Taurus wrote:well you have colored calves....and you have longhorns which are colored. Shouldn't be that hard to figure that one out.

what i was trying to figure out was if he had sired them and if so how? meatball has a date with the butcher tomarrow at 11:30...
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