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New and needing help

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:32 am
by Awp0302
I have “inherited” a calf that I was told was blind from birth, but I’m not completely sure. I’m going to try to post a pic, but it’s giving me fits. Right eye has a white l, cloudy look with what looks like a little pink “nipple” sticking out of it. The left eye is a cloudy blue. I’ve just gotten back into cattle after a 15 year break, and I haven’t encountered anything that looks like this guy.

Re: New and needing help

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:23 pm
by TennesseeTuxedo
:welcome: to Cattle Today.

Beats me what’s going on.

Re: New and needing help

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:03 pm
by wbvs58
That pink nipple is an ulcer that is trying to heal or is close to rupturing.

Ken

Re: New and needing help

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:29 pm
by Buck Randall
Ken's right, the pink nipple is probably scar tissue that filled in over an ulcer. Unless the eye is still really watery or it looks like he's uncomfortable opening it, you probably don't need to do anything. It will shrink down into a tiny little spot.

Re: New and needing help

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:05 am
by msplmtneer
Howdy and :welcome: good luck with the calf :tiphat:

Re: New and needing help

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:53 pm
by TCRanch
Buck Randall wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:29 pm
Ken's right, the pink nipple is probably scar tissue that filled in over an ulcer. Unless the eye is still really watery or it looks like he's uncomfortable opening it, you probably don't need to do anything. It will shrink down into a tiny little spot.
Ken & Buck, but does that indicate blind at birth? Any ulcerated eye I've encountered was from legit pinkeye or eye abrasions. One of the original cows we bought had a cloudy (bluish) spot in one of her eyes & the sellers were upfront it was from pinkeye. Unless it's too late, LA300, patch or sew the eye shut and they're good to go. Educate me, please.

Awp0302, how old is this calf you inherited?

Re: New and needing help

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:08 pm
by Buck Randall
TCRanch wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:53 pm
Buck Randall wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:29 pm
Ken's right, the pink nipple is probably scar tissue that filled in over an ulcer. Unless the eye is still really watery or it looks like he's uncomfortable opening it, you probably don't need to do anything. It will shrink down into a tiny little spot.
Ken & Buck, but does that indicate blind at birth? Any ulcerated eye I've encountered was from legit pinkeye or eye abrasions. One of the original cows we bought had a cloudy (bluish) spot in one of her eyes & the sellers were upfront it was from pinkeye. Unless it's too late, LA300, patch or sew the eye shut and they're good to go. Educate me, please.

Awp0302, how old is this calf you inherited?
I didn't want to throw anybody under the bus, but I'd say it's unlikely that he was blind from birth. Unless he happened to be born blind, then got pinkeye or an injury that caused the ulcer, which would be quite the coincidence.

It's almost certainly too late for treatment to do this calf any good. The white or soft blue spots on eyes are areas where the cornea is thickened after healing over an ulcer. If the ulcer is too big or chronic for the cornea to heal over, the body will lay down scar tissue like you'd normally see on skin. That's the pink stuff. It will shrink with time, like any scar, but the damage to the vision is probably permanent.

Re: New and needing help

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:46 pm
by Son of Butch
Awp0302 wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:32 am
I have “inherited” a calf that I was told was blind from birth, but I’m not completely sure.
Right eye has a white cloudy look with what looks like a little pink “nipple” sticking out of it.
The left eye is a cloudy blue. I’ve just gotten back into cattle after a 15 year break
and I haven’t encountered anything that looks like this guy.
You've got a blind calf. What help do you need?

:welcome:
to the boards.... :tiphat:

Re: New and needing help

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:22 pm
by TCRanch
Buck Randall wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:08 pm
TCRanch wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:53 pm
Buck Randall wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:29 pm
Ken's right, the pink nipple is probably scar tissue that filled in over an ulcer. Unless the eye is still really watery or it looks like he's uncomfortable opening it, you probably don't need to do anything. It will shrink down into a tiny little spot.
Ken & Buck, but does that indicate blind at birth? Any ulcerated eye I've encountered was from legit pinkeye or eye abrasions. One of the original cows we bought had a cloudy (bluish) spot in one of her eyes & the sellers were upfront it was from pinkeye. Unless it's too late, LA300, patch or sew the eye shut and they're good to go. Educate me, please.

Awp0302, how old is this calf you inherited?
I didn't want to throw anybody under the bus, but I'd say it's unlikely that he was blind from birth. Unless he happened to be born blind, then got pinkeye or an injury that caused the ulcer, which would be quite the coincidence.

It's almost certainly too late for treatment to do this calf any good. The white or soft blue spots on eyes are areas where the cornea is thickened after healing over an ulcer. If the ulcer is too big or chronic for the cornea to heal over, the body will lay down scar tissue like you'd normally see on skin. That's the pink stuff. It will shrink with time, like any scar, but the damage to the vision is probably permanent.
Gotcha. Thank you!

Re: New and needing help

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:56 pm
by Awp0302
Thank you so much! I intended to post a picture and couldn’t figure it out. The pink “nipple” has shrunk, and his eye is a whitish blue. His other eye is a pale blue. I have come to think he has minimal vision out of that eye. He’s good natured and not skittish. Now we are trying to figure out whether to try him in the pasture when he gets bigger, or keep him pinned long term. Anyone had any experience with a blind calf? Wondering if her will follow our small herd by smell and sound? He follows our dog.

Re: New and needing help

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:04 am
by bird dog
I had one for a while that was with its mother on pasture. It was born blind. The mom would feed the calf and then sit it down where it would remain until she returned. I didn't think it would live but it actually did okay and I fed it out and ate it.
After it got to be a bigger calf it stayed close to a pond that was close to a border fence. It would make its way to where the water was, get a drink, then graze its way back to the fence. The fence was its security blanket.

When weaned it stayed in a smallish pen with a water trough and a feed trough. I had it processed when I got tired of fooling with it and had it all ground into burger.