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Post by MrSmith » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:39 am

Howdy all.
Been on here reading for a good long while. I think I'm finally about to take the leap into getting some cows of my own, so figured I should introduce myself.
I bought 180 acres a few years ago in NW Arkansas, and built a house and homestead for my wife and 2 daughters.
We're almost 40, with girls 7 and 2.
There's about 75 acres of decent pasture, and 50 more of briers and broom sedge, broken into 8 lots. The rest is timbered slopes.
There's a good heavy duty pipe corral and headgate, and a really old chicken house for hay storage.
I've never raised cattle.
Only a little farm experience from when I was young. Mom and Dad tried a little farming when I was very young, and helping on grandpa's commercial pig farm, which we all hated.

But I'm handy and like gardening and animals.
I have the land, and have not been happy with leasing it out, so it's time to get some cows.
I've got a kubota m7060 and 8' bushhog so far.
I have about $20k to get a herd started.
I'll gladly accept all advice.

I'm aware there's a lot still I don't know.



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Re: Long time listener, first time caller

Post by HDRider » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:44 am

Good luck and welcome to CT.

I started out just about like you, except my kids are grown, live far away and are not part of the farm. I wish I could have done this while they were young.

I bought two sets of bred heifers, one set of open heifers. Each set was 10. Two sets were commercial Angus, and one bred set was SimAngus. I bought a good registered Angus bull and am calving his second season.

NW Arkansas is more cattle country than here in NE Arkansas.

My biggest learning curve was related to a vaccination program. I spend a lot of time focused on my grass.

There is a lot of good info on CT if you take the time to sift through it. There are some exceptional people on here.
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Post by slick4591 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:54 am

:welcome: Yes, you picked a great place for advise. Mine would be to make sure your basic infrastructure is in place before any animal is unloaded on your place.
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Re: Long time listener, first time caller

Post by Nesikep » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:08 am

Welcome.
When it comes time for cows, Look at what is commercially accepted in your area for breeds, go with that... As for individual cows, I'd recommend getting middle aged cows that have been trouble free, and the easier to handle the better... Come calving time it's good if at least one of you knows what to do.. Heifers aren't that smart there!
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Re: Long time listener, first time caller

Post by HDRider » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:20 pm

Nesikep wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:08 am
Welcome.
When it comes time for cows, Look at what is commercially accepted in your area for breeds, go with that... As for individual cows, I'd recommend getting middle aged cows that have been trouble free, and the easier to handle the better... Come calving time it's good if at least one of you knows what to do.. Heifers aren't that smart there!
Nes, I hear you, and maybe I have been lucky. Of my 30 heifers, I have culled one. Did not produce milk. I have two that might go. One had twins and did not service them. One had oversized udders, could not service the calf. I am giving them a second chance, which might be poor management, but I am still learning about such things.
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Dun said, "You gotta be flexible. Do whatever you have to do for the best results within your limitations."

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Re: Long time listener, first time caller

Post by Nesikep » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:41 pm

HDRider wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:20 pm
Nesikep wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:08 am
Welcome.
When it comes time for cows, Look at what is commercially accepted in your area for breeds, go with that... As for individual cows, I'd recommend getting middle aged cows that have been trouble free, and the easier to handle the better... Come calving time it's good if at least one of you knows what to do.. Heifers aren't that smart there!
Nes, I hear you, and maybe I have been lucky. Of my 30 heifers, I have culled one. Did not produce milk. I have two that might go. One had twins and did not service them. One had oversized udders, could not service the calf. I am giving them a second chance, which might be poor management, but I am still learning about such things.
Work with what you got, good to hear your start was better than ours 30 years ago... 1 prolapse, 1 dead cow, 2 dead calves, that was just calving, then a calf broke a leg, 3 cows got pneumonia in the summer and keeled over.. that was on a herd of 15 cows.
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Re: Long time listener, first time caller

Post by TCRanch » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:45 pm

Howdy, MrSmith! You've already received a lot of good advise - and there is no end to the learning curve!

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Re: Long time listener, first time caller

Post by msplmtneer » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:28 am

Howdy and :welcome: to the board good luck :tiphat:
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Re: Long time listener, first time caller

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:40 am

TCRanch wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:45 pm
Howdy, MrSmith! You've already received a lot of good advise - and there is no end to the learning curve!
I love that phrase TC.

:welcome: MrSmith!
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Re: Long time listener, first time caller

Post by MrSmith » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:44 am

Thank you for the warm welcome.
I've asked on a few cattle on craigslist, but so far all the deals are gone by the time I contact them.

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Re: Long time listener, first time caller

Post by Kingfisher » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:17 pm

Green grass cures alot of ills.
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Re: Long time listener, first time caller

Post by snoopdog » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:19 pm

Howdy and welcome, we're in the same area, and if you want to jawjack about cows I'm almost always available.
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