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Insects Shorting Electric Fence

Postby BK9954 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:47 pm

Anyone Have an issue with insects shorting an electric fence. Twice this week found a scorpion and spider touching the wire while also touching a tree and t post, popping loud. Not sure how much this affected the voltage on 7,000 volts. Didnt test it while they were frying.
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Re: Insects Shorting Electric Fence

Postby dun » Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:05 pm

I've had it happen but not often. Usually by the time they fry they don;t cause another problem until it rains and they get wet and conductive again
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Re: Insects Shorting Electric Fence

Postby fasttommy » Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:46 pm

I see it occasionally with slugs. They crawl up tposts and get zapped when they get between the insulator and the fence. A good reason to go with composite or wood posts instead of steel. They'll snap really loud though so they are easy to find.
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Re: Insects Shorting Electric Fence

Postby BK9954 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:56 pm

fasttommy wrote:I see it occasionally with slugs. They crawl up tposts and get zapped when they get between the insulator and the fence. A good reason to go with composite or wood posts instead of steel. They'll snap really loud though so they are easy to find.

Yea I just didnt want to put anymore money into it then I had to. I had old T post laying everywhere. The other materials cost me $500 to fence 40 acres. Yanking it off in the next year or 2 when the property gets sold. I only let the cattle out there every other week or so. I ride the fence before I do. Its rough terrain. Dead trees and ravines are an issue. I have one of those LED lights on the wire by the road. It still flashed for voltage when the bugs were shorting the wire to the post. On the way home at night I drive by to make sure that light is still flashing.
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Re: Insects Shorting Electric Fence

Postby M-5 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:44 pm

One stretch of fence gets very damp in wet years. I assume the insects get on the hot wire but when this happens I get 4 or 5 cattle egrets that have the hot wire in their mouth . I also get a few frogs lizards and occasional bird
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Re: Insects Shorting Electric Fence

Postby Caustic Burno » Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:59 pm

Only thing shorts mine out is deer and hogs that haven't been educated yet.
I have miles of electric fence and have never had an insect problem
I am running 18k volts as well.
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Re: Insects Shorting Electric Fence

Postby HDRider » Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:52 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:Only thing shorts mine out is deer and hogs that haven't been educated yet.
I have miles of electric fence and have never had an insect problem
I am running 18k volts as well.

What charger you using CB?
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Re: Insects Shorting Electric Fence

Postby Caustic Burno » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:12 pm

HDRider wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:Only thing shorts mine out is deer and hogs that haven't been educated yet.
I have miles of electric fence and have never had an insect problem
I am running 18k volts as well.

What charger you using CB?


Parmak Range master literature says 16k three different meters show 17.5 to 18k
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Re: Insects Shorting Electric Fence

Postby BK9954 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:29 pm

I have the parmak super "5" 50 mile. The literature says 1450 volts open but my tester only goes to 7000. Havent looked at the digital reader in a while. Its hidden under a trash can strapped to a tree.
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Re: Insects Shorting Electric Fence

Postby M-5 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:01 pm

How close are your hot wires and ground wires?
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Re: Insects Shorting Electric Fence

Postby Caustic Burno » Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:01 pm

You sure have had a lot of trouble out of your electric fence. Mine are virtually problem free.
Good insulators and proper grounding goes a long way.
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Re: Insects Shorting Electric Fence

Postby backhoeboogie » Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:24 pm

a snake got in to mine once. Not sure how he did it but he was zapped. I found him before the buzzards did. I don't know of any insect problems. Maybe I have had them and didn't know.
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Re: Insects Shorting Electric Fence

Postby BK9954 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:27 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:You sure have had a lot of trouble out of your electric fence. Mine are virtually problem free.
Good insulators and proper grounding goes a long way.

It has always held a charge, like I said the LED fence light tester that stays on there and flashes has always flashed saying it had current. My ground rods are 8 ft deep, 10 feet apart, about 20 foot from the charger and fence. I cant say I have had a lot of trouble, for running my first electric and the only advice is books and you guys its gone fairly well. Nothing has tore it down, it has kept the cattle in, just wanting to know if there was something someone did when insects get fried and stuck or to prevent it. This scorpion was stretched abkout 2 inches from the tree, over the insulator onto the wire. Thanks for your input.
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Re: Insects Shorting Electric Fence

Postby Farm Fence Solutions » Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:42 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
HDRider wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:Only thing shorts mine out is deer and hogs that haven't been educated yet.
I have miles of electric fence and have never had an insect problem
I am running 18k volts as well.

What charger you using CB?


Parmak Range master literature says 16k three different meters show 17.5 to 18k


If there was a like button, I'd have clicked it. That charger will burn a wire in two if it shorts on a T post. :D
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Re: Insects Shorting Electric Fence

Postby dun » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:21 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:You sure have had a lot of trouble out of your electric fence. Mine are virtually problem free.
Good insulators and proper grounding goes a long way.

It's never caused any problems for us, just that zapping sound as they fry gets disconcerting.
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