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When is it safe to store rolls

Post by sstterry » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:42 pm

We were getting my hay up last weekend and we got an unexpected light morning shower. The forecast changed and they started calling for evening rain and for rain for the next several days. That afternoon they started rolling. At the beginning, the hay had a 22% moisture content. By the end, the last half of the hay had dropped back down into the teens. Because of this, we did not put any of it indoors.

My question is, if I wanted to move some of it inside (the later rolls and not the early rolls), how long should I wait to be absolutely certain that it will not overheat? I can leave it where it sits, but I hate to leave it out if I could move some of it in the dry.



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Re: When is it safe to store rolls

Post by Stocker Steve » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:53 pm

Lots of variables. Buy a probe and check the hay.
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Re: When is it safe to store rolls

Post by Silver » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:56 pm

I would probe the bales to check the temperatures. It will heat for awhile, and when it starts to cool back down you should be good to go. But I've never had the luxury of storing hay under a roof so take it for what it's worth lol

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Re: When is it safe to store rolls

Post by sstterry » Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:03 pm

Stocker Steve wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:53 pm
Lots of variables. Buy a probe and check the hay.
I hate to spend $250-$300 dollars on a probe, would a compost thermometer work? I just really want to monitor the temps and not the moisture content.

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Re: When is it safe to store rolls

Post by A.J. » Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:27 pm

sstterry wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:03 pm
Stocker Steve wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:53 pm
Lots of variables. Buy a probe and check the hay.
I hate to spend $250-$300 dollars on a probe, would a compost thermometer work? I just really want to monitor the temps and not the moisture content.
A compost thermometer should work. One of the guys with UT was discussing hay and this topic at the Northeast Tn beef expo a couple years ago and said those worked just fine for hay. We’ve got one and use it with ours. Gets the job done, and much cheaper.

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Re: When is it safe to store rolls

Post by 1982vett » Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:54 pm

Doubt 22% is going to be a problem if it was cured before it got wet. Now if it were still green and got wet...might get a little hotter.

I put some in the barn today that I baled Monday a week ago that got rained on. Would have put it in sooner but kept getting showers running through.
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Re: When is it safe to store rolls

Post by Silver » Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:40 pm

sstterry wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:03 pm
Stocker Steve wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:53 pm
Lots of variables. Buy a probe and check the hay.
I hate to spend $250-$300 dollars on a probe, would a compost thermometer work? I just really want to monitor the temps and not the moisture content.
What did you use to determine the moisture of your hay at time of baling?

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Re: When is it safe to store rolls

Post by sstterry » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:54 am

Silver wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:40 pm
sstterry wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:03 pm
Stocker Steve wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:53 pm
Lots of variables. Buy a probe and check the hay.
I hate to spend $250-$300 dollars on a probe, would a compost thermometer work? I just really want to monitor the temps and not the moisture content.
What did you use to determine the moisture of your hay at time of baling?
The guy who does it has a moisture sensor on his roller. It constantly gives him the moisture content of the hay.

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Re: When is it safe to store rolls

Post by callmefence » Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:08 am

We use a oven thermometer . The kind with the long wire probe. A cordless drill and a long bit with extension to drill a half inch hole 18" into the tightest part of the bale. Give it a bit after drilling in case you created heat. I usually put the probe in stuff hay back in the hole. And leave it for several days. Take the thermometer with you or the sun will damage the led readout. Got a buddy that swears by the compost thermometers.
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Re: When is it safe to store rolls

Post by Stickney94 » Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:37 am

I've used a kitchen/grill thermometer and some of the techniques described. They work. I've since gotten a hay tester with temp that has a 24" probe. That works better.

When I'm really concerned I will put bales under roof but leave them spaced out and in one layer. Then restack later. But I also live in an area with a lot of wind so I have wind flow through my buildings.

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Re: When is it safe to store rolls

Post by Texasmark » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:28 am

I bought a Turkey thermometer. Probe is pretty long....forget how long but long. Cost was not a factor.

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Re: When is it safe to store rolls

Post by callmefence » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:44 pm

Probed some fresh baled hay today. About 3 days baled so I took pics of my rig. A drill, a oven thermometer and a piece of hightensil wire..o and black tape. Remember the drill can create heat I drill the hole plug it with grass and check it daily until i feel ok with it. I always check the first bales, bales from really thick windrows and especially bales that suddenly begin to squat after a few days. Terry I'm not liable for any injury's from the high tensil wire...lol ...or the drill....or the thermometer.


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Re: When is it safe to store rolls

Post by sstterry » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:10 pm

callmefence wrote:
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Terry I'm not liable for any injury's from the high tensil wire...lol ...or the drill....or the thermometer.
A good lawyer can always find a way! :tiphat: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

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Re: When is it safe to store rolls

Post by Aaron » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:06 pm

2 days after the fire department leaves.
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