Bin run corn for grazing

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Bin run corn for grazing

Post by Bigfoot » Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:58 pm

Anybody ever had any luck planting bin run corn, for grazing? I've got a few acres, I will burning down with glyphosate in the spring, and disturbing with a disc. What I really want to do on this field is encourage my native crabgrass. I had some pretty decent luck last year doing this. I keep thinking I could get some pretty good bang for buck, by discing in about 50-70 pounds of bin run corn. Sudan would be my first choice, but its $1.40 a pound here. Millet would be next, but it's right in there with it. $12 worth of corn, might give quit a bit of graving.


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Re: Bin run corn for grazing

Post by Banjo » Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:33 am

The downside is its only a one time deal. You won't have much regrowth if any unless you grazed it about knee high ...then it it might regrow some maybe, but then again it is whatever your objective is. That would be a good way to promote some crabgrass...I think i would just go ahead and plant some RR crabgrass too I would put some fescue in there too so you have something after frost.

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Re: Bin run corn for grazing

Post by Dave » Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:21 am

A different angle on the subject. The neighbor who I helped by feeding with the mixer is just getting this system set up. Not all the feed bunks are in place yet. And mainly this system will be used to feed a hay, straw, and corn silage mix to cows and be fed on the ground. But there was one group of about 150 head of bigger calves that were getting whole corn in their ration. It was being fed on the ground. A fair amount of that whole corn fell out. The snow melted and the ground has been getting muddy. I wonder how much of that corn will get walked in to the ground and sprout and grow.

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Re: Bin run corn for grazing

Post by Lucky_P » Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:30 pm

Following is from a 2008 discussion on a Management-Intensive Grazing list I belonged to; this response from a retired KY Ag. Extension agent:
"Consider drilling in corn (2 bushels of bin-run corn/acre with approx 70 actual units of N/acre) for summer grazing (we can plant the corn in late Apr/early May and in 80-90 days have the corn ready for grazing - 160,000 plant population/acre will give you tremendous carrying capacity)."
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Re: Bin run corn for grazing

Post by Stocker Steve » Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:33 pm

Yes, in a mix.
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Re: Bin run corn for grazing

Post by Bigfoot » Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:23 pm

Stocker Steve wrote:
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Yes, in a mix.
What was it mixed with?
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Re: Bin run corn for grazing

Post by Bigfoot » Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:30 pm

Lucky_P wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:30 pm
Following is from a 2008 discussion on a Management-Intensive Grazing list I belonged to; this response from a retired KY Ag. Extension agent:
"Consider drilling in corn (2 bushels of bin-run corn/acre with approx 70 actual units of N/acre) for summer grazing (we can plant the corn in late Apr/early May and in 80-90 days have the corn ready for grazing - 160,000 plant population/acre will give you tremendous carrying capacity)."
that's all I know about it...
Good info, glad you posted. I had 45 days of growth in mind, I guess it would be best to let the ears develope.
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Re: Bin run corn for grazing

Post by Stocker Steve » Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:02 pm

Grazing mixes are all the rage. More resilient and more soil regeneration benefits and more balanced feed, but not usually max short term tonnage.

It is easy to choke down the corn. That's why we use so much Round up. SS has finer roots and is not as touchy as corn. I also think it canopies quicker.

Best place I know to try mixes in on the net at Green Cover Seed. They have a free "Smartmix Calculator" you can use to mock up and rate mixes - - once you declare your goal(s). Bastards. :mad: Always want to clarify goals are before you start making changes...
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Re: Bin run corn for grazing

Post by T & B farms » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:41 pm

If you are planting it at 160,000, you don’t have to worry about ear development. There won’t be any.

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Re: Bin run corn for grazing

Post by Bigfoot » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:49 pm

T & B farms wrote:
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If you are planting it at 160,000, you don’t have to worry about ear development. There won’t be any.
I thought the same thing, until I saw a pretty small raised bed with like 500 or more stalks growing in it. At a glance, it didn't even look like corn, because it was so thick. Turned out every stalk had decent looking ears. Now how good the ears will be on F2 corn, I don't know. Can't amount to too much.
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Re: Bin run corn for grazing

Post by Bigfoot » Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:21 pm

I think this is Lucky’s guy here:
https://u.osu.edu/beef/2010/08/18/grazi ... nual-corn/
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Re: Bin run corn for grazing

Post by T & B farms » Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:58 pm

160k population would be a plant every 5” in a 7.5” drill spacing. You would have to have extremely good soil, lots And lots of nitrogen, and bunches of timely rains for it to put on any type of ear. you might get a lot of grazing out of the stalks and leaves but I wouldn’t bank on any corn.

In our very best soils (heavy riverbottom) we will plant 32k population and a 180-90-90 Fertalizer analysis. 30” rows with around a 6.5” spacing.

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Re: Bin run corn for grazing

Post by sim.-ang.king » Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:17 pm

T & B farms wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:58 pm
160k population would be a plant every 5” in a 7.5” drill spacing. You would have to have extremely good soil, lots And lots of nitrogen, and bunches of timely rains for it to put on any type of ear. you might get a lot of grazing out of the stalks and leaves but I wouldn’t bank on any corn.

In our very best soils (heavy riverbottom) we will plant 32k population and a 180-90-90 Fertalizer analysis. 30” rows with around a 6.5” spacing.
If he's planting bin run corn, he's not going to get much of an ear which ever way he plants it. That being if it's hybrid.
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Re: Bin run corn for grazing

Post by kickinbull » Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:45 am

Make sure you germination test before planting! I added corn to mix I planted last year. Not one plant of corn came up! Everything else came up fine. My guess as to why, terminator seeds, or it was dried too hot and it killed the germ!

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Re: Bin run corn for grazing

Post by Bigfoot » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:37 am

kickinbull wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:45 am
Make sure you germination test before planting! I added corn to mix I planted last year. Not one plant of corn came up! Everything else came up fine. My guess as to why, terminator seeds, or it was dried too hot and it killed the germ!
All corn here is shelled early and dried down. It amazes me, the hurry they get in sometimes. I had wondered if finding viable corn would even be an option.
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