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Re: Hay Profits

Post by kenny thomas » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:24 pm

tom4018 wrote:
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To me $60 an acre on fertilizer seems a little low, depends on the soils needs. I averaged about $85-90 an acre, which was $14-15 per 4x5 roll. Although some of that ground got grazed after second cutting.
Tom, at 450 a ton 100 lb of fertilizer costs 22.50. So are you using 400 lb per acre or am I figuring it wrong? I bought some excellent net wrapped 3rd cutting this fall for $27 delivered to my barn. I'm trying to decide if it's not cheaper to buy it next year.
Mine usually gets 2 tons of chicken litter in the fall, top dress with some urea in the spring and then sometimes a little fertilizer after first cutting. We adjust it yearly based on soil tests.

Are you figuring 19-19-19 at that price? Taking hay off the ground would pull out a lot of nutrients. They say a ton of grass hay takes about 53 pound of potash. Would not take long to run the ground done without adding it back.

I figure I have $25 a roll in mine by the time it is stacked, probably not counting much of my labor, it is just me and maybe wife or daughter helps haul. Around here you can buy some average hay just as cheap but hauling and quality are an issue.
Tom I was just throwing an average number out there to compare prices of doing it myself or buying. All my hayland except 11 acres is on leased land so I have to add that to the price of the roll.
No option for chicken litter here.


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Re: Hay Profits

Post by tom4018 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:33 pm

kenny thomas wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:24 pm
tom4018 wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:22 am
kenny thomas wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:07 am


Tom, at 450 a ton 100 lb of fertilizer costs 22.50. So are you using 400 lb per acre or am I figuring it wrong? I bought some excellent net wrapped 3rd cutting this fall for $27 delivered to my barn. I'm trying to decide if it's not cheaper to buy it next year.
Mine usually gets 2 tons of chicken litter in the fall, top dress with some urea in the spring and then sometimes a little fertilizer after first cutting. We adjust it yearly based on soil tests.

Are you figuring 19-19-19 at that price? Taking hay off the ground would pull out a lot of nutrients. They say a ton of grass hay takes about 53 pound of potash. Would not take long to run the ground done without adding it back.

I figure I have $25 a roll in mine by the time it is stacked, probably not counting much of my labor, it is just me and maybe wife or daughter helps haul. Around here you can buy some average hay just as cheap but hauling and quality are an issue.
Tom I was just throwing an average number out there to compare prices of doing it myself or buying. All my hayland except 11 acres is on leased land so I have to add that to the price of the roll.
No option for chicken litter here.
Some years here you could buy all you wanted and decent quality, other years you would pay way too much. I only do mine to have a little more control over quality. I do 10-11 acres a couple miles from here, owner fertilizes, cuts and rakes it. I will ted and bale it and I pay him per roll, we figure $25 a roll less the bale bill. Works good for me.

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Re: Hay Profits

Post by kenny thomas » Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:51 pm

I do some here they fertilize, cut, rake and I bale and move it and give them $15. But it's within 200 yards of my barn.
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Re: Hay Profits

Post by snoopdog » Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:28 pm

I always hear, how fertilizer costs, BS! fertilizer makes money when properly applied. No difference if its pasture or hay ground.
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Re: Hay Profits

Post by SmokinM » Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:29 pm

$60 will get you about 80# of nitrogen here no P,K. If I apply all 3 nutrients in say a 60-40-110 mix I am in it for $100 an acre. $15-$18 a roll in fertilizer costs pretty much every year is average. I have $45 a roll in it when it’s stacked in my barn if I figure for my time at all. I can buy it cheaper on years when weather cooperates but quality is very hit and miss then by the time I haul it it’s close to a wash. Working on more grazing days so less goes in the cows. I can sell the extra, not getting rich but coming out ok.

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Re: Hay Profits

Post by tom4018 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:56 pm

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Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:28 pm
I always hear, how fertilizer costs, BS! fertilizer makes money when properly applied. No difference if its pasture or hay ground.
My uncle always said it was the cheapest feed you could buy.

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Re: Hay Profits

Post by HDRider » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:00 am

tom4018 wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:56 pm
snoopdog wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:28 pm
I always hear, how fertilizer costs, BS! fertilizer makes money when properly applied. No difference if its pasture or hay ground.
My uncle always said it was the cheapest feed you could buy.
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