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Planting Wheat and Oats Without Disking

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:16 am
by Soggy Bottom
I am wanting to try a new planting method this year. I have 6 acres I normally plant with oats and wheat. Typically I disk the field a few times than plant. This year I want to spray the field with gly than wait until its dead and broadcast my seed. After putting out seed I will run a shredder over it to cut the dead standing weeds/plants. Anyone tried this with good results? Planning on putting down 100lbs to the acre of seed.

Re: Planting Wheat and Oats Without Disking

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:20 am
by Banjo
If you get a good soaking rain afterwards or if you have good moisture now...but if your dry.....????

Re: Planting Wheat and Oats Without Disking

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:26 am
by 1982vett
Find a pasture drill to use.

Re: Planting Wheat and Oats Without Disking

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:36 am
by snoopdog
The pasture drill is the best option. Instead of shredding I would use a roller.

Re: Planting Wheat and Oats Without Disking

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:06 am
by Banjo
snoopdog wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:36 am
The pasture drill is the best option. Instead of shredding I would use a roller.
Im curious to why?
Are you talking about a crimper roller or cultipacker? again curious. About a month ago I went over some tall rank pasture reseeding clover and dragging a chain harrow...it knocked it down pretty good...some stuff wanted to stand back up.
Maybe you can elaborate on why you use a roller. I'm always ready to learn something.

Re: Planting Wheat and Oats Without Disking

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:18 am
by skyhightree1
I got about 7 acres im taking over now that's over grown I am bushhogging it then discing it really good then drill seeds fescue and oats. If it leaves a lot of cut material after bushhogging I will rake it up and then bale it then set the bales on fire and disc the ashes in.

Re: Planting Wheat and Oats Without Disking

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:04 pm
by snoopdog
Banjo wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:06 am
snoopdog wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:36 am
The pasture drill is the best option. Instead of shredding I would use a roller.
Im curious to why?
Are you talking about a crimper roller or cultipacker? again curious. About a month ago I went over some tall rank pasture reseeding clover and dragging a chain harrow...it knocked it down pretty good...some stuff wanted to stand back up.
Maybe you can elaborate on why you use a roller. I'm always ready to learn something.
I don't know what a crimper roller is, I was talking about a flat roller, though a cultipacker would work I think.He did say he wasn't going to disc. Its hard to get a stand by broadcasting in my experience, costs go up with the extra seed, I was thinking that shredding would just be adding more cost, wouldn't hurt a thing other than that.

Re: Planting Wheat and Oats Without Disking

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:12 pm
by Brute 23
Broadcasting works but I would still run over it with a disk first. Just one pass makes all the difference... it doesnt have to be good enough to row crop.

One pass with disk, then broadcast the seed, and roll or drag.

Re: Planting Wheat and Oats Without Disking

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:55 am
by skyhightree1
Brute 23 wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:12 pm
Broadcasting works but I would still run over it with a disk first. Just one pass makes all the difference... it doesnt have to be good enough to row crop.

One pass with disk, then broadcast the seed, and roll or drag.
Or go over it lightly with a disk

Re: Planting Wheat and Oats Without Disking

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:01 pm
by skyhightree1
If you don't cover those seeds the birds will love you for providing them with a nutritious continual meal

Re: Planting Wheat and Oats Without Disking

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:21 pm
by sim.-ang.king
If it was spring time, i'd say go ahead, but fall can be iffy. Just depends on your moisture.

Re: Planting Wheat and Oats Without Disking

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:28 pm
by 5S Cattle
How thick is the stuff you’re wanting to shred?

Re: Planting Wheat and Oats Without Disking

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:48 pm
by Douglas
skyhightree1 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:55 am
Brute 23 wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:12 pm
Broadcasting works but I would still run over it with a disk first. Just one pass makes all the difference... it doesnt have to be good enough to row crop.

One pass with disk, then broadcast the seed, and roll or drag.
Or go over it lightly with a disk
Me too after seeding. Put the disk pretty straight and hook a chain drag to the back of the disk. Put the smooth side of the drag down and it won't collect much residue. If i could figure out how to attach a 12 volt spinner to the front of the tractor i could do it all at once.

Re: Planting Wheat and Oats Without Disking

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:04 pm
by Brute 23
Douglas wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:48 pm
skyhightree1 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:55 am
Brute 23 wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:12 pm
Broadcasting works but I would still run over it with a disk first. Just one pass makes all the difference... it doesnt have to be good enough to row crop.

One pass with disk, then broadcast the seed, and roll or drag.
Or go over it lightly with a disk
Me too after seeding. Put the disk pretty straight and hook a chain drag to the back of the disk. Put the smooth side of the drag down and it won't collect much residue. If i could figure out how to attach a 12 volt spinner to the front of the tractor i could do it all at once.
Where we use to work there were some guys that planted quite a bit of oats real close to us. They had two good size tractors with big finishing disks. The disks had gear driven seed boxes between the first gain and the second. They had drags behind each disk. They would whip in and run one behind the other and get after it. They were disking, planting, and covering in one pass, each. They covered lots of ground and had a good stand every year.

Re: Planting Wheat and Oats Without Disking

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:43 pm
by skyhightree1
Douglas wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:48 pm
skyhightree1 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:55 am
Brute 23 wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:12 pm
Broadcasting works but I would still run over it with a disk first. Just one pass makes all the difference... it doesnt have to be good enough to row crop.

One pass with disk, then broadcast the seed, and roll or drag.
Or go over it lightly with a disk
Me too after seeding. Put the disk pretty straight and hook a chain drag to the back of the disk. Put the smooth side of the drag down and it won't collect much residue. If i could figure out how to attach a 12 volt spinner to the front of the tractor i could do it all at once.
That's a great idea and I could mount an old seeder to the front by making a bracket then powering the spinner with one of my snow plow 12v motors