Buying Johnson grass seed

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Re: Buying Johnson grass seed

Post by bird dog » Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:05 pm

It would be nice to have good grass to mow, but most don't in this part of the world. Johnson grass is going to grow whether you like it or not so why not take advantage of it? Its a darn good forage on not so good land and as shown by SS Cattle, it can be very nutritious.
JG hay is way underrated. You can usually buy it fairly cheap because the horse crowd can't use it. Its one of those things that CB says "why fight it"



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Re: Buying Johnson grass seed

Post by callmefence » Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:30 pm

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This is a new one.

Why in the h.ll would anyone knowingly plant Johnson grass? We have tons of it here and I would do anything to be rid of it all.

This stuff is the absolute worst! Maybe it's better than thistles and ironweed, if I want to put a positive slant on things.
Why would anyone not want it.
Noble pretty much calls it the best cow feed that grows. It's only disadvantages actually occur in all grasses and only require a little common sense to manage......you know what never mind.... something just occurred to me.
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Re: Buying Johnson grass seed

Post by Brookhill Angus » Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:42 pm

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Re: Buying Johnson grass seed

Post by callmefence » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:28 am

LOL...you are new ain't you. Next thing you'll tell me is you can't feed it to horses..
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Re: Buying Johnson grass seed

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:33 am

That’s pretty much how folks in our area feel about Johnsongrass.

We have patches here and there and I let them graze it when conditions are right. When in doubt I mow it down.
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Re: Buying Johnson grass seed

Post by Caustic Burno » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:43 am

bird dog wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:05 pm
It would be nice to have good grass to mow, but most don't in this part of the world. Johnson grass is going to grow whether you like it or not so why not take advantage of it? Its a darn good forage on not so good land and as shown by SS Cattle, it can be very nutritious.
JG hay is way underrated. You can usually buy it fairly cheap because the horse crowd can't use it. Its one of those things that CB says "why fight it"

It’s a heck of a lot easier and less costly to work with Ma Nature than fight her.
She will win! The only thing keeping her at bay is dollars.
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Re: Buying Johnson grass seed

Post by Brookhill Angus » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:29 am

Caustic Burno wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:43 am
bird dog wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:05 pm
It would be nice to have good grass to mow, but most don't in this part of the world. Johnson grass is going to grow whether you like it or not so why not take advantage of it? Its a darn good forage on not so good land and as shown by SS Cattle, it can be very nutritious.
JG hay is way underrated. You can usually buy it fairly cheap because the horse crowd can't use it. Its one of those things that CB says "why fight it"

It’s a heck of a lot easier and less costly to work with Ma Nature than fight her.
She will win! The only thing keeping her at bay is dollars.
Your comment is spot on correct. I’ve mowed more this year than ever before, mostly due to a lot of rain and heat.

Maybe goats could keep things at bay, but I’ve never seen weeds grow like they have this year.

I sometimes wonder what things would look like if I didn’t touch a thing and came back in 20 years.
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Re: Buying Johnson grass seed

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:59 am

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Re: Buying Johnson grass seed

Post by Brookhill Angus » Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:18 pm

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
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Jurassic Park.
More like "Prussic Acid Park"
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Re: Buying Johnson grass seed

Post by callmefence » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:03 pm

Prussic acid is like cougar attacks. It can happen, but it's no reason to not go in the woods. Greatly exaggerated and blown out of proportion. And actually can occur in any plant.
In fact one of the most documented cases of a 100percent herd loss from prussic acid was in nearby Bastrop. On a pure stand of Bermuda pasture. Also prussic acid is of zero danger in hay. If brookhill would quit showing his ignorance and listen to people who know what their talking about he might be able to actually make more than a Bale per 5 acres
Since you put so much into name dropping...
Raven has some pics of use cutting some Johnson grass... really making hay
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Re: Buying Johnson grass seed

Post by Bright Raven » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:12 pm

callmefence wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:03 pm
Prussic acid is like cougar attacks. It can happen, but it's no reason to not go in the woods. Greatly exaggerated and blown out of proportion. And actually can occur in any plant.
In fact one of the most documented cases of a 100percent herd loss from prussic acid was in nearby Bastrop. On a pure stand of Bermuda pasture. Also prussic acid is of zero danger in hay. If brookhill would quit showing his ignorance and listen to people who know what their talking about he might be able to actually make more than a Bale per 5 acres
Since you put so much into name dropping...
Raven has some pics of use cutting some Johnson grass... really making hay
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Re: Buying Johnson grass seed

Post by Brookhill Angus » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:17 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:12 pm
callmefence wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:03 pm
Prussic acid is like cougar attacks. It can happen, but it's no reason to not go in the woods. Greatly exaggerated and blown out of proportion. And actually can occur in any plant.
In fact one of the most documented cases of a 100percent herd loss from prussic acid was in nearby Bastrop. On a pure stand of Bermuda pasture. Also prussic acid is of zero danger in hay. If brookhill would quit showing his ignorance and listen to people who know what their talking about he might be able to actually make more than a Bale per 5 acres
Since you put so much into name dropping...
Raven has some pics of use cutting some Johnson grass... really making hay
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Do you really want me to post video? I have Johnson grass in the hayfield that looks like it needs a machete to get through. I would VASTLY prefer Orchard, timothy, and red clover in it's place.

There are people I know that put up hay, and they think that whatever is tall, and thick is the best hay, in fact, some wait until September to do their first cutting. TRUE! Lot more hay then, had all summer to grow. Brilliant rationale.

Is the goal to produce roughage or nutrition is my question?
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Re: Buying Johnson grass seed

Post by Brookhill Angus » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:30 pm

I put this garbage up recently, it was grass, clover, weeds and of course the beloved Johnson grass, lots of it too. The cattle will eat it, but I've put up far better quality than this stuff. BTW is my windrow big enough? or should it be another foot or two higher?

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Re: Buying Johnson grass seed

Post by callmefence » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:32 pm

Brookhill Angus wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:17 pm
Bright Raven wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:12 pm
callmefence wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:03 pm
Prussic acid is like cougar attacks. It can happen, but it's no reason to not go in the woods. Greatly exaggerated and blown out of proportion. And actually can occur in any plant.
In fact one of the most documented cases of a 100percent herd loss from prussic acid was in nearby Bastrop. On a pure stand of Bermuda pasture. Also prussic acid is of zero danger in hay. If brookhill would quit showing his ignorance and listen to people who know what their talking about he might be able to actually make more than a Bale per 5 acres
Since you put so much into name dropping...
Raven has some pics of use cutting some Johnson grass... really making hay
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Do you really want me to post video? I have Johnson grass in the hayfield that looks like it needs a machete to get through. I would VASTLY prefer Orchard, timothy, and red clover in it's place.

There are people I know that put up hay, and they think that whatever is tall, and thick is the best hay, in fact, some wait until September to do their first cutting. TRUE! Lot more hay then, had all summer to grow. Brilliant rationale.

Is the goal to produce roughage or nutrition is my question?
Again you don't know what your talking about.
Johnson grass will outperform Timothy and orchard grass in protein and blow it out of the field in tdn. Check the link 5s provided from Noble. Why can't you shut up when you don't have a clue . Providing people with bad information in not right. Especially when you do it as you do in self promotion.
All the cattle sale sites are littered with you trying to sell your bulls . Some as cheap as 2500.00 , and we all know you don't have that many. That tells me everything about you and your cattle. Your counterfeit...and you can't sell a handful of bulls at even low prices without extensive social networking......I just hope ol tux don't get burned to bad.
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Re: Buying Johnson grass seed

Post by callmefence » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:34 pm

Brookhill Angus wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:30 pm
I put this garbage up recently, it was grass, clover, weeds and of course the beloved Johnson grass, lots of it too. The cattle will eat it, but I've put up far better quality than this stuff. BTW is my windrow big enough? or should it be another foot or two higher?

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That's not that big of a windrows
What you got there half a acre
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