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Re: Type of rake

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:22 am
by sim.-ang.king
Aaron wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:51 am
sim.-ang.king wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:00 pm
Aaron wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:00 pm
Rake everything double with 256 every year on all 280 acres. It really slows a day down, but I am not ready to splurge on the Vermeer 2800 until I can find a steal of a deal. As with the haybine, if I was to put an upkeep cost on the rake for the number of acres it does, the cost would be less than 50 cents an acre each year.
If you do ever get a vermeer roller bar, would it be alright if I borrow it to do a couple hundred acres?
Pretty sure you will be able to afford one before I will.
Yeah, but then it wouldn't be free, like if my good friend let be borrow his!

Re: Type of rake

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:47 am
by mailm
What types of rake do you use? I have the usual rake for the lawn, as well as for acorns, as there are many oaks growing around my house. Also, I recently read a good review on choosing a garden tool and bought myself a rake for dead grass https://thetoolassistant.com/best-rake-for-dead-grass/. It has its own characteristics and perfectly removes excess grass from the lawn.

Re: Type of rake

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:44 pm
by WinterSpringsFarm
Aaron wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:00 pm
Rake everything double with 256 every year on all 280 acres. It really slows a day down, but I am not ready to splurge on the Vermeer 2800 until I can find a steal of a deal. As with the haybine, if I was to put an upkeep cost on the rake for the number of acres it does, the cost would be less than 50 cents an acre each year.
Here as well, have my entire life. We don't have quite the number of acres as you but I've spent a lot of time on an M with a 256, or 585 and 256.

Re: Type of rake

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:10 pm
by Nesikep
We got a side delivery rake, does a decent job but it's slow.. had a 5 wheel JD rake, thing broke tines faster that you could keep up replacing them, and you'd find them in your tractor tire the next year

Today's work, baling tonight Image

Re: Type of rake

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:16 pm
by Silver
I just have a NH V-rake, gets the job done and about zero maintenance other than some grease on a regular basis.

Re: Type of rake

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:56 pm
by Stocker Steve
chevytaHOE5674 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:03 am
Started making hay with roller bar rake and it did an ok job but it really liked to rope the hay, also not very quick.

Went to a 13' rotary and it made the nicest fluffiest windrows that would dry down awesome and baling was a pleasure but also was slow. Also had a lot of moving mechanical parts to it.

Have a 12 wheel carted v-rake now and it does a job about the roller bar but man is it fast. I do just about everything myself and it is the only way possible I can rake 40+ acres of hay and get it baled in the same day. Also it is stupid simple, no pto/gears/ujoints/etc to have to worry about.
Did the rolla bar thing.
Could not afford the rotary.
How fast do you go with your wheel rake?
Have you looked at the hyd driven rolla bar V rakes?

Re: Type of rake

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:21 pm
by chevytaHOE5674
I go as fast as the ground will allow be it 5mph or 15mph.

Looked at and demoed a Vermeer R2300 and it does a nice job (not as nice as a rotary) but it was a big heavy clumsy machine that had lots of points that looked like failure in the making in rough ground. For the 18-20k price tag for a nice used one I can buy 3 brand new wheel rakes.

Re: Type of rake

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:44 pm
by Stocker Steve
When do you see hay heavy enough that you wish you had a driven rotary rake rather than a wheel rake?

Re: Type of rake

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:58 pm
by chevytaHOE5674
I havent had too much issue pushing 3 or 4+ ton to the acre hay thru my carted wheel rake. On the heavy end I may get a clump/wad here or there but the baler has no problems gobbling them up.

Re: Type of rake

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:30 am
by Stocker Steve
What do you think about a disc mower - - wheel rake combo for making mostly baleage?

Re: Type of rake

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:17 am
by chevytaHOE5674
I do a lot of baleage for customers with a disc mower conditioner and wheel rake. Haven't had any trouble or complaints.

Re: Type of rake

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:03 am
by Stickney94
Stocker Steve wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:30 am
What do you think about a disc mower - - wheel rake combo for making mostly baleage?
I run a Kuhn GMD 600 7' ft disc mower and a Kuhn SR 110 (10 wheel V rake) and put up about half our hay for baleage (JD baler, and a small one bale wrapper).

The only issue I run into really with the rake is wind. I live in a really windy part of the country (lots of windmills). There are wind shields you can put on the rake wheels. I've just been to cheap to do that.

Re: Type of rake

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:48 pm
by Bigfoot
I’ve got a 10 wheel Vermeer. Kinda wanting a 4 wheel rake for the 3pt, won’t use it much, but I have a few applications it’d be nice. They any good?

Re: Type of rake

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:57 pm
by kickinbull
Aaron wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:00 pm
Rake everything double with 256 every year on all 280 acres. It really slows a day down, but I am not ready to splurge on the Vermeer 2800 until I can find a steal of a deal. As with the haybine, if I was to put an upkeep cost on the rake for the number of acres it does, the cost would be less than 50 cents an acre each year.
Aaron, you ever considered a double hitch and get nh 258?

Re: Type of rake

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:26 pm
by Stocker Steve
I bought a used 10 wheel V for $1700. Lost a wheel bearing on the way home... Then sold the rolla bar for $800.

The 10 wheel has a low cart so it is not ideal for Reed Canary, otherwise OK.