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Cow calf

Post by Bfields30 » Wed May 22, 2019 10:58 am

What is more important to a cow calf producer when considering buying cows, Quality or Cost?

Explanations please?



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Re: Cow calf

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Wed May 22, 2019 11:31 am

High quality, low cost.

Hard to beat that combination.
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Re: Cow calf

Post by Bfields30 » Wed May 22, 2019 12:07 pm

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 11:31 am
High quality, low cost.

Hard to beat that combination.
Could you give an example Tt??

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Re: Cow calf

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Wed May 22, 2019 12:35 pm

Yes, check out this cow right here. Sold for less than $1,000.00 and she's confirmed bred.

viewtopic.php?p=1579875#p1579875
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Re: Cow calf

Post by MO-Ruminants » Wed May 22, 2019 1:01 pm

I'm nothing but a dull-headed whippersnap, but wouldn't you first want to identify your ranch goals so as to know what type of cattle to select? (opening overgrown pasture, cows for viewing pleasure, profitable steer calves, direct-marketed beef etc.)

"Quality" will also have several different meanings depending on what one hopes to accomplish with cows.

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Re: Cow calf

Post by Bfields30 » Wed May 22, 2019 2:09 pm

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 12:35 pm
Yes, check out this cow right here. Sold for less than $1,000.00 and she's confirmed bred.

viewtopic.php?p=1579875#p1579875
Yeah I just bought a Brangus 1450 lbs for 950 gentle 5 yrs old due to calve any day.
I want quality but reasonable cost

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Re: Cow calf

Post by Bfields30 » Wed May 22, 2019 2:11 pm

MO-Ruminants wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 1:01 pm
I'm nothing but a dull-headed whippersnap, but wouldn't you first want to identify your ranch goals so as to know what type of cattle to select? (opening overgrown pasture, cows for viewing pleasure, profitable steer calves, direct-marketed beef etc.)

"Quality" will also have several different meanings depending on what one hopes to accomplish with cows.
Cow calf operation raise steers to sell at sale barn or privately sell nice heifers my situation at the moment. And I know everyone’s definition of quality is different . But I can’t afford right now to buy 1500-2k cows.

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Re: Cow calf

Post by gcreekrch » Wed May 22, 2019 7:30 pm

Bfields30 wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 2:11 pm
MO-Ruminants wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 1:01 pm
I'm nothing but a dull-headed whippersnap, but wouldn't you first want to identify your ranch goals so as to know what type of cattle to select? (opening overgrown pasture, cows for viewing pleasure, profitable steer calves, direct-marketed beef etc.)

"Quality" will also have several different meanings depending on what one hopes to accomplish with cows.
Cow calf operation raise steers to sell at sale barn or privately sell nice heifers my situation at the moment. And I know everyone’s definition of quality is different . But I can’t afford right now to buy 1500-2k cows.
Then you take the longer route, buy older cows of similar type and buy the best bulls you can afford. Keep the heifer calves and breed up.

My theory is most cows didn't get old unless they were good cows.

Another thought is that if you are short on cash you will need time.

Ownership has a lot to do with quality. ;-)
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Re: Cow calf

Post by littletom » Thu May 23, 2019 12:29 pm

A hedge between both. I'm selling weaned steers and heifers. Not making seedstock. I want a good quality cow. Not a big outfits donor cow or someones bottom culls.

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Re: Cow calf

Post by Bfields30 » Thu May 23, 2019 8:16 pm

littletom wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 12:29 pm
A hedge between both. I'm selling weaned steers and heifers. Not making seedstock. I want a good quality cow. Not a big outfits donor cow or someones bottom culls.
What age do you sell your steers and heifers?
This my first calf crop so I’m trying to see when others sell there’s as well as wean?

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Re: Cow calf

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Thu May 23, 2019 8:21 pm

I wean steers at roughly 7 months of age and try to background them for a minimum of 45 days before taking them to the sale facility.
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Re: Cow calf

Post by Bfields30 » Fri May 24, 2019 12:21 pm

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Thu May 23, 2019 8:21 pm
I wean steers at roughly 7 months of age and try to background them for a minimum of 45 days before taking them to the sale facility.
I have calf be 3 months on 25 th of this month and he’s brought his mom down a lot when earliest anyone’s weaned. As well as she doing a great job he’s around 350-400lbs. I don’t want to wean to early My goal is 6 months but i want his mom to be able to put her weight back on.

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Re: Cow calf

Post by jschoolcraft86 » Fri May 24, 2019 12:33 pm

I calve Jan - March and sell the calves at the end of September generally. I am gonna try to watch the market and hold out a little longer this year if it seems prudent, but I may need some cattle money to get me through my pecan harvest so we'll see.

I'm pulling some calves off some young heifers I bought from the barn at about 3 months just to give the mamas time to develop more. It seems to me like someone bred them too young but maybe I can still right the ship. I've seen calves get weaned at 60 days but that's not something I would shoot for, it was more the product of an unfortunate event at that age.

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Re: Cow calf

Post by Bfields30 » Fri May 24, 2019 12:47 pm

jschoolcraft86 wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 12:33 pm
I calve Jan - March and sell the calves at the end of September generally. I am gonna try to watch the market and hold out a little longer this year if it seems prudent, but I may need some cattle money to get me through my pecan harvest so we'll see.

I'm pulling some calves off some young heifers I bought from the barn at about 3 months just to give the mamas time to develop more. It seems to me like someone bred them too young but maybe I can still right the ship. I've seen calves get weaned at 60 days but that's not something I would shoot for, it was more the product of an unfortunate event at that age.
Yeah I have 6 on the ground and 4 left to calve in next month or so.i just didn’t wanna wean him by his self that’s all

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Re: Cow calf

Post by gcreekrch » Mon May 27, 2019 11:38 pm

Bfields30 wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 8:16 pm
littletom wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 12:29 pm
A hedge between both. I'm selling weaned steers and heifers. Not making seedstock. I want a good quality cow. Not a big outfits donor cow or someones bottom culls.
What age do you sell your steers and heifers?
This my first calf crop so I’m trying to see when others sell there’s as well as wean?
Oldest calves are 210 days, youngest are 155ish when we wean. Only wean once in the fall so whatever the cow has produced gets sorted off the same day. Decisions on whether to market or feed are made when they go down the alley the second time as we are sorting loads.

It makes no sense to me for anyone but the feedlot to vaccinate pre weaning or to wean calves for 45 to 60 days before selling. If we do all that some suggests we can soon have another $125 invested in a calf that has lost his baby fat and likely didn’t gain much in those short 6 weeks. Until feedlots start offering a 25 cent premium over the premium we already receive for our calves straight off the cow I don’t believe we will be doing much other than we do for them.
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