Hay Field.....

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Hay Field.....

Post by CCCowman » Sun May 05, 2019 7:09 pm

I have a 40 acre hay field that I over seeded last fall with rescue, rye and clover. This spring I have put 90 tons of lime and 6 tons of fertilizer (coated with grayzon) on it. Man it looked good.... really good.

My neighbor has a 20 acre field he's trying to sell. Sent a guy over last week (-I was out of town) to bush hog it for a potential buyer.

Yep....... he cut the 20 acres PLUS my hay field!!!! What would be fair compensation?


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Re: Hay Field.....

Post by M-5 » Sun May 05, 2019 7:29 pm

Estimate the tonnage it would have produced. You should still have some fertilizer left for regrowth. The lime is still there.
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Re: Hay Field.....

Post by Bright Raven » Sun May 05, 2019 7:29 pm

There is no excuse for such incompetence.

I fertilized some of my pasture this spring. Grass is excellent so I can imagine how nice your grass must have been. I would calculate how many rolls of hay it would have produced and charge premium per roll based on similar hay in your area.
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Re: Hay Field.....

Post by snoopdog » Sun May 05, 2019 7:46 pm

Calculate, did he scalp it? I would prefer to punch a guy in the nose that couldn't tell the difference between 60 acres and 20, but that puts you on the other side of the law. It might be worth it for the satisfaction, because if he's that dumb he probably cant pay you. But then again, he may shoot your be nice, and instead of 150 misdemeanor assault fine , you may be be paying hospitalization fees and spending time recuperating or not
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Re: Hay Field.....

Post by kentuckyguy » Sun May 05, 2019 7:49 pm

I’d want the cost of fertilizer plus the average cost of the hay per roll.

If your like myself the first cutting of hay supplies about 60% of our winter feed.
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Re: Hay Field.....

Post by CCCowman » Sun May 05, 2019 8:25 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
Sun May 05, 2019 7:29 pm
There is no excuse for such incompetence.

I fertilized some of my pasture this spring. Grass is excellent so I can imagine how nice your grass must have been. I would calculate how many rolls of hay it would have produced and charge premium per roll based on similar hay in your area.
Made me sick when I saw it. Best it has ever been. I don't know know where to start with this.
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Re: Hay Field.....

Post by JMJ Farms » Sun May 05, 2019 8:30 pm

Boy that sucks. I’d say figure how many rolls you DIDNT get and also the fertilizer cost. Bc even though you have some fertilizer left, some of what was already there was utilized. Kinda double dipping in a way, but I still think it’s plenty fair because now you’ve got to find or grow more. I’d be nice about it to start with but if they didn’t want to make it right I’d be an idiot.
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Re: Hay Field.....

Post by kenny thomas » Sun May 05, 2019 8:36 pm

Sounds like a very cheap 20 acres you can buy now.
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Re: Hay Field.....

Post by ValleyView » Sun May 05, 2019 9:23 pm

Kind of depends on what your relationship is, then again if he’s selling and leaving town it may be now or never.

Sunk costs to date, 60% of total yield you were expecting and 10-20% irritation/inconvenience fee.

Or same as above but drop only the irritation/inconvenience fee and have him lease his place out to you through the hay season to bale it as well to help make up losses, but paper it up before he sells. Sounds like it’s not near as good as yours, but at least it’s free forage.

That way, you’re at least close to being made whole on a bale count perspective or possibly a little better.

Sorry for the bad luck, I would be so disappointed/gut punched if this same thing happened to me.
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Re: Hay Field.....

Post by wbvs58 » Mon May 06, 2019 4:57 am

Can you get the bush hogged grass baled? I would want to do something to get it off the field so that it doesn't smother the new grass coming through.

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Re: Hay Field.....

Post by CCCowman » Mon May 06, 2019 5:45 am

wbvs58 wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 4:57 am
Can you get the bush hogged grass baled? I would want to do something to get it off the field so that it doesn't smother the new grass coming through.

Ken
I was thinking about that or at least raking it up and getting it off somehow for new growth.
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Re: Hay Field.....

Post by CCCowman » Mon May 06, 2019 5:49 am

ValleyView wrote:
Sun May 05, 2019 9:23 pm
Kind of depends on what your relationship is, then again if he’s selling and leaving town it may be now or never.

Sunk costs to date, 60% of total yield you were expecting and 10-20% irritation/inconvenience fee.

Or same as above but drop only the irritation/inconvenience fee and have him lease his place out to you through the hay season to bale it as well to help make up losses, but paper it up before he sells. Sounds like it’s not near as good as yours, but at least it’s free forage.

That way, you’re at least close to being made whole on a bale count perspective or possibly a little better.

Sorry for the bad luck, I would be so disappointed/gut punched if this same thing happened to me.
He's a really good guy and I know it was a dumb mistake but still.......

As dumb as it sounds I was really looking forward to baling this. I've put a lot of time and effort into it to get it as good as it was. I have no doubt i would have gotten double the yield from the past couple years.
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Re: Hay Field.....

Post by CCCowman » Mon May 06, 2019 5:52 am

kenny thomas wrote:
Sun May 05, 2019 8:36 pm
Sounds like a very cheap 20 acres you can buy now.
I wish!!!!! He wants $240 for it.
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Re: Hay Field.....

Post by kenny thomas » Mon May 06, 2019 6:45 am

$12 an acre. That's even cheap here. Lol
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Re: Hay Field.....

Post by ValleyView » Mon May 06, 2019 7:12 am

CCCowman wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 5:49 am
ValleyView wrote:
Sun May 05, 2019 9:23 pm
Kind of depends on what your relationship is, then again if he’s selling and leaving town it may be now or never.

Sunk costs to date, 60% of total yield you were expecting and 10-20% irritation/inconvenience fee.

Or same as above but drop only the irritation/inconvenience fee and have him lease his place out to you through the hay season to bale it as well to help make up losses, but paper it up before he sells. Sounds like it’s not near as good as yours, but at least it’s free forage.

That way, you’re at least close to being made whole on a bale count perspective or possibly a little better.

Sorry for the bad luck, I would be so disappointed/gut punched if this same thing happened to me.
He's a really good guy and I know it was a dumb mistake but still.......

As dumb as it sounds I was really looking forward to baling this. I've put a lot of time and effort into it to get it as good as it was. I have no doubt i would have gotten double the yield from the past couple years.
It doesn’t sound dumb at all. Working to improve your ground and yields is why we do what we do.

I agree with the others, I’d possibly try to get it raked and up out of the way of new grass. Hire it done and send him the bill.
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