Sprigging a new Hay Field

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Sprigging a new Hay Field

Post by M-5 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:59 am

Some might be interested others maybe not but I am starting this thread to document my progress on this project.

I have 12.5 acres of plain ole pensacola bahia that joins my 20 acres of tifton 85. I have been wanting to replant this field for a couple of years. If things go well the next couple of months I am gonna give it a go.

Soil test and Amendments have been done. Last spring it was burnt and sprayed to eliminate any weeds. cut hay off of it before seed heads matured last year. no fall seeds because of hurricane. Fed cows on it all winter. drug it early to distribute the manure . grazed it hard and short and let it come back about 3" or 4" and sprayed a little over 2qts of Roundup this Sunday will be 2 weeks. Should be ready to disk this weekend. Donor area had 100# N 40# P and 100# K put on it Wednesday 2 weeks ago.

My aunt has a spreader I could have borrowed (everyone knows what happens to borrowed equipment ) but I decided to build my own. Picked up an s-10 rear end and fabbed up most everything last saturday in about 4 hrs . Still have to finish welding the bottom plate on the turn table and build the chute and tongue.


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Re: Sprigging a new Hay Field

Post by M-5 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:04 am

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Re: Sprigging a new Hay Field

Post by hurleyjd » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:33 am

Keep in mind that you are destroying a grass that is native and likes your area. Try fertilizing it like Tif 85 and see what happens. To make good hay you need to cut at the right time regardless of the type of grass.

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Re: Sprigging a new Hay Field

Post by hurleyjd » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:36 am

M-5 wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:59 am
Some might be interested others maybe not but I am starting this thread to document my progress on this project.

I have 12.5 acres of plain ole pensacola bahia that joins my 20 acres of tifton 85. I have been wanting to replant this field for a couple of years. If things go well the next couple of months I am gonna give it a go.

Soil test and Amendments have been done. Last spring it was burnt and sprayed to eliminate any weeds. cut hay off of it before seed heads matured last year. no fall seeds because of hurricane. Fed cows on it all winter. drug it early to distribute the manure . grazed it hard and short and let it come back about 3" or 4" and sprayed a little over 2qts of Roundup this Sunday will be 2 weeks. Should be ready to disk this weekend. Donor area had 100# N 40# P and 100# K put on it Wednesday 2 weeks ago.

My aunt has a spreader I could have borrowed (everyone knows what happens to borrowed equipment ) but I decided to build my own. Picked up an s-10 rear end and fabbed up most everything last saturday in about 4 hrs . Still have to finish welding the bottom plate on the turn table and build the chute and tongue.
Got any kids or grand kids if so load a trailer and tell them it is a hayride but the plan is to throw all of the hay from the trailer in small handfuls.

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Re: Sprigging a new Hay Field

Post by M-5 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:40 am

hurleyjd wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:33 am
Keep in mind that you are destroying a grass that is native and likes your area. Try fertilizing it like Tif 85 and see what happens. To make good hay you need to cut at the right time regardless of the type of grass.
I have plenty more ;-)

Can not make Pensacola bahia = the tonnage or protein % of Hybrid Bermudas no matter what you do.
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Re: Sprigging a new Hay Field

Post by True Grit Farms » Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:15 pm

M-5 wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:40 am
hurleyjd wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:33 am
Keep in mind that you are destroying a grass that is native and likes your area. Try fertilizing it like Tif 85 and see what happens. To make good hay you need to cut at the right time regardless of the type of grass.
I have plenty more ;-)

Can not make Pensacola bahia = the tonnage or protein % of Hybrid Bermudas no matter what you do.
No money in selling Bahia grass hay either.
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Re: Sprigging a new Hay Field

Post by callmefence » Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:48 pm

M-5 wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:59 am
Some might be interested others maybe not but I am starting this thread to document my progress on this project.

I have 12.5 acres of plain ole pensacola bahia that joins my 20 acres of tifton 85. I have been wanting to replant this field for a couple of years. If things go well the next couple of months I am gonna give it a go.

Soil test and Amendments have been done. Last spring it was burnt and sprayed to eliminate any weeds. cut hay off of it before seed heads matured last year. no fall seeds because of hurricane. Fed cows on it all winter. drug it early to distribute the manure . grazed it hard and short and let it come back about 3" or 4" and sprayed a little over 2qts of Roundup this Sunday will be 2 weeks. Should be ready to disk this weekend. Donor area had 100# N 40# P and 100# K put on it Wednesday 2 weeks ago.

My aunt has a spreader I could have borrowed (everyone knows what happens to borrowed equipment ) but I decided to build my own. Picked up an s-10 rear end and fabbed up most everything last saturday in about 4 hrs . Still have to finish welding the bottom plate on the turn table and build the chute and tongue.
Good deal looking forward to it.
I sprigged 18 acres in coastal I late Feb. Got dry for a few weeks and got a pretty thin stand.
Overseeded with giant. Rolled it smooth with a dually pick up and a quarter mile roll of tornado net wire with a pipe run through it. Got a pretty good stand in spots. Plan to start filling bare spots with tops. Using a contraption I'm building for skid steer and irrigation.
I would love to share but apparently I have been banned from posting pics.
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Re: Sprigging a new Hay Field

Post by wbvs58 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:15 pm

M-5 wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:04 am
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/LgJQZdZ3/IMG-20190 ... 302503.jpg[/image]
I like that dash, very innovative, well done. What is the plan, a hopper going on top?

I look forward to seeing this series how it goes. We are just going into winter but our past summer was a severe drought, the only grass to survive was the running grass kikuyu which propagates from runners. I want to get much more of it on my place so might copy your spreader if you don't have a patent on it.

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Re: Sprigging a new Hay Field

Post by M-5 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:37 pm

wbvs58 wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:15 pm
M-5 wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:04 am
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/LgJQZdZ3/IMG-20190 ... 302503.jpg[/image]
I like that dash, very innovative, well done. What is the plan, a hopper going on top?

I look forward to seeing this series how it goes. We are just going into winter but our past summer was a severe drought, the only grass to survive was the running grass kikuyu which propagates from runners. I want to get much more of it on my place so might copy your spreader if you don't have a patent on it.

Ken
Thanks, it will have a slide chute that will extend into the back of a wagon pulling it. Some I have seen use a small pully on pinion and large one on spinner shaft. I'm gonna run 13" tires to increase the rotation speed. The one I rode lots of acres feeding was made for square bales. I'm going to do loose tops .
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Re: Sprigging a new Hay Field

Post by M-5 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:43 pm

http://www.cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=69728

There is a picture of a spreader in this thread. It's just like the one my aunt has . I have no idea where it was made.
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Re: Sprigging a new Hay Field

Post by wbvs58 » Wed May 01, 2019 3:24 am

M-5 wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:43 pm
http://www.cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=69728

There is a picture of a spreader in this thread. It's just like the one my aunt has . I have no idea where it was made.
That gives me a lot of ideas, thanks.

Ken

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Re: Sprigging a new Hay Field

Post by Brute 23 » Wed May 01, 2019 5:12 am

That's cheating. :D I walked a lot of miles as a kid shaking out jiggs sprigs behind a trailer.
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Re: Sprigging a new Hay Field

Post by M-5 » Mon May 06, 2019 8:21 am

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started Friday afternoon discing the field . Cut it north and south , then saturday I cut it SE to NW , It was very dry, Fortunately we got about 7/10 saturday night and I took advantage of the moisture and disced it again early sunday morning. It was perfect cut about 6" deep and the clay galls broke up nice with the moisture. I will let it lay about a week before I cut it again .
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Re: Sprigging a new Hay Field

Post by Jogeephus » Tue May 07, 2019 9:27 am

Good luck with it but be careful and don't plant more than you need unless you want to get in the hay business because as I'm sure you know T85 will produce a lot of hay. (this is one of many mistakes I've made) Around here many think its crap hay because its stemmy but IMO it is the best hay you can grow. Latest tests on mine showed it to be running nearly 16% protein on the stuff where the weather cooperated and I could bale properly but many here still insist Alecia is king and end up having to supplement their feed during the winter months. Personally, I think $50/ton for a 15.7% feed is pretty darn cheap. Good luck and remember to grease your tedder! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Sprigging a new Hay Field

Post by M-5 » Tue May 07, 2019 11:48 am

Jogeephus wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 9:27 am
Good luck with it but be careful and don't plant more than you need unless you want to get in the hay business because as I'm sure you know T85 will produce a lot of hay. (this is one of many mistakes I've made) Around here many think its crap hay because its stemmy but IMO it is the best hay you can grow. Latest tests on mine showed it to be running nearly 16% protein on the stuff where the weather cooperated and I could bale properly but many here still insist Alecia is king and end up having to supplement their feed during the winter months. Personally, I think $50/ton for a 15.7% feed is pretty darn cheap. Good luck and remember to grease your tedder! :lol: :lol:
Well Dam,

What am I gonna do now ? ;-) High quality Hay , more tonnage on less acres . my G-pa was wrong your supposed to work harder not smarter. I've got 2 much invested at this point and what would the neighbors think if I planted something Conventional. I told the deacon at the church last week (which borders this field) I was planting Hemp and was gonna build a small commune in back corner.
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