Suggestions for South Texas

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Suggestions for South Texas

Post by spartacus » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:28 pm

Newbie here. Come from family of ranchers but never been one myself. Inherited about 900 acres in south Texas (between Cotulla and Encinal) and been doing a little work to improve.

I have an old 50 acre field that I just mulched and and looking at root plowing and blading to seed something. A lot of ranches (including some of the other sections that used to be part of my family ranch) use Buffel plus I was wondering if anyone had any suggestion for something hardy, drought resistant and perennial.

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Re: Suggestions for South Texas

Post by JMJ Farms » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:17 pm

Can’t help you but I wish you the best. When I visited S Texas, I liked it :tiphat:
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Re: Suggestions for South Texas

Post by tater74 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:51 pm

thereis probably a reason the others are using it.
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Re: Suggestions for South Texas

Post by Brute 23 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:45 pm

Buffel is pretty much it. It takes lots of acres per head out there. That's rough coutry for cattle but great for deer and quail. :)
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Re: Suggestions for South Texas

Post by spartacus » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:58 pm

Thanks everyone. that's pretty much what I was thinking as well.
Yes we have had deer hunters leasing the property for a number of years but I don't like not being able to use my own property very much.

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Re: Suggestions for South Texas

Post by BC » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:47 pm

Buffel grass is the grass for your area I wish it was more cold tolerant and could be grown farther north. The hunting income is hard to pass up. Think about merchandising your forage with something that could be turned out after hunting season and then sold before the hunter arrive in the fall.

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Re: Suggestions for South Texas

Post by wbvs58 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:34 am

This is the first time I have seen Buffel mentioned on here. It is no good on my country, frosts are a bit too severe but it is a highly productive grass on country out west of here. Typically this was brigalow country and the scrub was pulled with two big dozers dragging a big chain then windrowed and burnt then blade plowed. Crocadile seeders were used a lot, big roller with teeth and seed dropped into the indentations. Nothing real fancy for a seed bed but the buffel took on well. This country was cleared in the 60's and 70's but is now great grazing country. Sounds a bit like the sort of country you have there.

Note, this is Australia I am talking about.

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Re: Suggestions for South Texas

Post by greybeard » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:03 am

I've seen surplus ship anchor chains used to pull mesquite in West Texas to grub mesquite and saw them do the same in Vietnam behind Cats with Rome Plow ahead.
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Re: Suggestions for South Texas

Post by spartacus » Wed May 15, 2019 4:06 pm

I havent planted yet and am actually now exploring clearing, root plowing and raking another 400 acres before I plant.

In trying to research options (I am am a newbie), I ran across a bermuda called Texas Tough but I am not sure if its a good option or if I should just stick with Laredo Buffel and be done with it. Any more thoughts anyone?

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Re: Suggestions for South Texas

Post by cowboy43 » Wed May 15, 2019 6:36 pm

My opinion and what I seen is Bermuda is a high maintenance grass, if not fertilized and weed sprayed yearly it will slowly die out ( Bermuda decline) native grasses and improved blue stems are low maintenance but still need managing by not overgrazing, Need to rotate pastures, a lower stocking rate is recommended on natives.

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Re: Suggestions for South Texas

Post by 5S Cattle » Wed May 15, 2019 9:35 pm

The only place I really see bermuda in south tx is under pivots. I wouldn’t try and buck the system too much. Might ask your extension agent what they think

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Re: Suggestions for South Texas

Post by Brute 23 » Thu May 16, 2019 7:42 am

Is the soil on your place sand, red dirt, or black dirt?

You might try a 5-10ac trap by a barn or the working pens and see what happens.
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Re: Suggestions for South Texas

Post by hornedfrogbbq » Fri May 17, 2019 3:46 pm

In central Texas we've had great success with Tifton 85, straight coastal and even common bermuda but it really does depend on the soil. We have, on one ranch, where one of those grasses will work and one won't. I would suggest contacting your local farm office (FSA) and have them come out and suggest. They'll know in 5 min from looking at it or will take samples.

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