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johnsongrass hay

Postby ugabulldog » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:16 pm

I am not worried about the toxicity due to lots of rain this year and hay has been sitting for a few months. But can it get established in pasture by feeding hay with some seeds?
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Re: johnson grass hay

Postby angus9259 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:23 pm

ugabulldog wrote:I am not worried about the toxicity due to lots of rain this year and hay has been sitting for a few months. But can it get established in pasture by feeding hay with some seeds?


yes
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Re: johnson grass hay

Postby Hogtiming » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:43 pm

Yes. But my cows kee it wiped out of the pastures. It’s hay fields where we can’t graze is where we have the problems
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Re: johnson grass hay

Postby greybeard » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:50 pm

"But can it get established in pasture by feeding hay with some seeds?"
If it was here, it would establish a lot more from hay with seeds than I'd probably want it to.
I like jg somewhat, but I want it where I want it and when I want it.
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Re: johnson grass hay

Postby ALACOWMAN » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:52 pm

It can be established just looking at it cross eyed...some folks concider it a weed..cattle think it's desert..they love it..
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Re: johnson grass hay

Postby Rafter S » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:23 pm

It will probably spread from hay if you cut and bale it just right, when the seed is mature, but not so old that it falls off in the field when the hay is raked and baled. However, as someone else said, it will never get established in the pasture unless you keep cattle off of it.

It makes good hay, but I wouldn't bother trying to get it established in the pasture.
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Postby Brute 23 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:01 pm

Yes. We have it in the pasture from feeding hay.
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Re: johnsongrass hay

Postby ClinchValley » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:44 am

I bought 14 bales of JG hay late winter last year. Fed them in the same place. I even spread some JG seed i had collected in the same general area. It is the poorest ground we have, so maybe that's the reason none came up. I was actually hoping it would. But seen nothing. And this ground sees 30-40 days in between grazings.
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Re: johnsongrass hay

Postby rjbovine » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:50 pm

Here in southern Il. JG is hard to get rid of if it get established . It also grows from rhizomes in the soil which are invasive . I understand different areas have different type of hay they feed or graze . Field edges and ditches it grows and grows here . Hope u have a different option to use . RJ
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Postby Lazy M » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:26 pm

Old man told me that Johnson grass is one of God's gifts to the poor farmers. I agree.
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Re: johnsongrass hay

Postby callmefence » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:02 am

Seed is readily available in most states.
We plan to plant one of our hybrid Sudan fields in Johnson grass. With proper management it should be a one time deal instead of having to replant every year. It can also be double cropped with oats as well. Just like crabgrass.
Johnson grass is the most palatable grass for cattle that grows out of the earth. As far as prussic acid it can form in any grass. .
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Re: johnsongrass hay

Postby Brute 23 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:36 am

Only thing I fault JG for is it has no resale value. I like to be able to sell hay if need be.
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Postby ClinchValley » Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:49 am

If it were cut at the right time, i would buy it no problem.
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Re: johnsongrass hay

Postby Brute 23 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:36 am

ClinchValley wrote:If it were cut at the right time, i would buy it no problem.


Your a minority. I cant even mention it because people act like I'm trying to screw them. Then if I say I have Klein, coastal, Tifton they grill me if the jg is in them too. It's not worth even bringing up. They will pay way more for Tifton or klein.... oh well :lol2: ... you can't make them drink
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Re: johnsongrass hay

Postby ClinchValley » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:57 am

Ha. I guess that means I should get them for a better deal next time. I was just glad to get some hay last winter. Do not want to go through that again.
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